re: Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?

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UAT's BOT is blocking them without a vote because they have no legit reason to stop them.

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Why do you keep calling it the UAT Board? It's the UA system, which governs all 3 campuses. If UAB is in fact completely independent of UAT, then why do you keep accusing UAT of blocking UAB's program? If UAB was independent, it could do what it wanted regardless of what UAT wants.

Also why do you care so much about UAB as an Auburn fan? Did you go to UAB or something? You need to focus more on the injustice perpetrated by AUA on the AUM athletic program. Hell, AUM does not even have a football team because the AUA board only cares about AUA football. Just using your logic buddy.

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Most schools only pay a very small portion of the coaches salary. for example, I believe Bama only actualy pays saban around 200-300k, the rest is from private sponsorship.

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Agreed, but common sense will tell any logical board member that there will always be hundreds of big time Bama boosters who will hold up their end of the deal to pay a salary. Also it is diversified among a lot of boosters so any one unhappy booster can't fire a Bama coach by threatening to pull funding. And even if all the boosters got together and decided to pull funding at the same time for a coaches salary, the UA athletic department is so large and profitable that it could cover the cost on its own.

UAB was in an entirely different situation where a few rich boosters were willing to help pay for a new coach. It would place the power to fire a university employee essentially in the hands of one or two donors, which can get a university in a ton of trouble with accreditation. But I guess you Auburn fans already know that........

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Bama fears competition from UAB. Bama knows UAB will never be an equal or true rival, but Bryant Jr and the BOT do not want to take any chances or give UAB a chance to build a respectable program.

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Name me one high profile prospect Alabama has ever lost to UAB, Troy, or South Alabama. Give me any inkling of any reason why anyone associated with Alabama football would fear UAB being a consistent 8-4 CUSA team. Troy is the premier program in the Sun Belt and it has not put the slightest smudge on Alabama's ability to recruit. Why would a successful UAB football program threaten Alabama football? Just give me something so I can play along in this fallacy of an argument you have created.

UAB basketball has arguably been the best basketball program in the State of Alabama over the last 20 years and Alabama did nothing to prevent that growth. UA had an actual reason to fear UAB basketball and it did not impede UAB in hiring Gene Bartow, Mike Anderson, or Mike Davis? And its not like UA does not care about basketball. We spend 2 million a year on our head coach and just spent millions renovating the coliseum.

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I was done with this subject until more gumps decided to chime in with some BS that needed correcting.

Again.

And honestly it does get annoying having to combat gump stupidity sometimes. It is like never-ending and stuff it seems.

Anyway, enough of that for me for now. Have work to do.

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WTF?

He's an AU fan living in Miami and ^^this^^ is how he spends his time?

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Saying or implying UAT and UAB have much of anything in common or related is simply not accurate. They are seperate independent institutions.

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Great. So if they are so separate then why do you keep accusing UAT of preventing UAB from having a successful football team? If there is no major connection then UAT would have no ability to stop the growth of UAB's football program.

Paul Bryant Jr is not the only voting member of that board.

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UAB is a top tier academic school

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top tier Medical school*

anything else is pretty much subpar.

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with a huge student population.

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compared to what? They have a smaller student body than most SEC schools.

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It is in a vibrant city

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Birmingham is a vibrant city?

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and the SEC is headquartered there

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Irrelevant.

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Maybe it could dilute Alabama's influence in the league offices.

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...no, just no. This post just absolutely blows.

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Yea tons of work to do and meetings to attend, but he has stayed on this message board from about 9 AM to 4PM today to make sure we all know how evil Alabama and all the "gumps" and "bammers" are at "UAT."

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Yep. In between doing work.

Your posts are too dumb to respond individually too, so I will just hit the high points.

1. You claim one person cannot unduly influence a BOT. This is laughable. Bryant Jr has many a time. Just like Bobby Lowder did on AU's.

2. I already explained the dynamic between UAT and UAB. It is a legal fact UAB is an independent university from UAT in every way EXCEPT a BOT that oversees both schools. The BOT is mostly comprised of "UAT people". This is not a difficult concept and I already provided a perfect analogy between the Alabama board of education and the independently operating systems within the same state.

3. If not to prevent UAB from fielding a stronger football team, why prevent them from getting a good coach or building their own stadium. Fisher would have MORE than paid for himself (the measly $200k in additional salary) in half a season. And that $200k was going to be picked up by UAB boosters anyway. They had already raised the cash. The new stadium would have cost the "UA system" exactly $0.00. So explain that one.

All the facts and actions of the UAT BOT are against you.

Your attempt at an arguement is weak, distorted, and full of fallacies.

Thanks for playing.

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top tier Medical school*

anything else is pretty much subpar.

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Their Biology and specifically their Microbiology programs are pretty damn good.

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Your attempt at an arguement is weak, distorted, and full of fallacies.

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So just to summarize, you contend that the University of Alabama, winners of 3 of the last 4 national titles, is concerned that any success by the UAB football program will diminish its status, and is therefore engaged in an active conspiracy to destroy the UAB football program.

I deny the accusation.

I will allow others to decide whose argument is "weak, distorted, and full of fallacies."