re: South Carolina fans - How long does Shane Beamer get?

I don't disagree with anything there.

I'm not saying that beamer is taking the wrong approach. I'm saying that if loafing doesn't get called out in film study, then he is. For all I know, he is addressing the concerns with Saturday properly.

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its easier to matter to you when youre up 45 and finally getting your shot to play in the game vs the team down 45.


It doesnt matter if youre SC or UGA, those players are all working incredibly hard all spring, summer, fall. Getting whipped is demoralizing.

Effort generally hasnt been an issue under Beamer. I agree it was at times in that game, but again...it was a rout


Hell Auburn beat the crap out of us in like 06 or 07 with Spurrier. There was some quit that day, but it didnt mean those guys werent giving effort at practice or the next games.

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THANK YOU!

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I'm saying that if loafing doesn't get called out in film study,

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Were you in SC's film room on Sunday? (No) Do you know what was said in there? (No) If not, then just zip it already.

I was trying to have a conversation with both you and Royal Air.

His tone is very different than yours (I thought I was carrying the same tone to both of you). Try decaf.

Was I pleased with the effort Saturday. No.

And full disclosure, I didn't see the 2nd half because my kid was playing in a soccer game. But, twice you made references a UGA walkon violently throwing a defender to the ground. Once I was OK, with. When it was repeated, it seems like piling on and unnecessary and got me riled up. We get where you are coming from, but we also get the reality of our own team and the challenges on the moment.

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So what are the expectations at South Carolina?

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I saw a post after the UGA blowout that I really liked: "Beamer can build a culture, not a program."

When he was hired, the belief was that he was going to take a CEO approach similar to Dabo and just have excellent coordinators that would be highly compensated. Except that's not what happened at all.

Objectively, Beamer didn't bring in a great staff and he is letting his tenure at SC crash into the mountains with each passing day that he employs Marcus Satterfield as OC. Just like his dad, Shane is showing to be blindly loyal to his friends and won't make the necessary changes that any other successful coach would. Frank, of course, was a much better coach than Shane (as of now) and could get by with VT fans calling for his coordinators' heads. Shane doesn't have that luxury.

SC fans are mostly realistic and know that Muschamp left him with a 2 win team where a bunch of the talent decided to either declare early or to transfer. We know it's going to be a slower rebuild and there has been patience, but we're watching another year of horrible offensive play and the glaringly obvious move isn't being made. On top of that, there are reports that the players are getting frustrated with the playcalling and it is leading to apathy, which is a program killer.

Ray Tanner needs to be fired before anyone else, but Shane won't make it past next year if he won't make the necessary coaching changes and there isn't tangible improvement among the scheme and determination of our team. We had a bunch of injuries this past Saturday, but there is no excuse for our entire team just rolling over like they did vs. UGA.

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SC needs a coach like Fickel or someone like him. They should be able to get a big name coach especially if he likes to play golf.

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This is not realistic. The 2015 coaching search cycle, and the 2020 coaching cycle, have borne this out. SC was turned down by Herman in 15, despite a significant lead time to pursue, and reports of a verbal agreement. UGA fired Richt to hire Kirby while he was actively negotiating a contract with Tanner, as per Smart's wife. From there, it spiraled to Rich Rod, William Taggart, and ultimately Muschamp.

Same thing in 20. Plenty of lead time, and turned down (most likely) by Napier at the bare minimum. A guy like Chadwell at Costal probably should have gotten the call, but here we are, and if Beamer fails, Chadwell will have done what the other mentioned candidates did, and be at a better job.

SC can't hire a Fickell. They have to take someone who wants the job.

If he doesn’t make a OC change immediately he can GTFO

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Not a SC fan but I live in SC. I don't think they're in any hurry with Beamer. SC fans aren't expecting a ridiculous turnaround for the most part. They did better than expected in Beamer's first year and seem (based on local sports radio) to be putting off the GA loss as "UGA is really good". I think their real expectation right now is to make a bowl and improve on recruiting (Beamer had a poor transition class but got some good transfers, and his class last year wasn't quite good enough for SC fans. They're expecting a top 15 type class this year). As long as Beamer doesn't take steps back, I think SC fans will be content for a couple year of being a bottom line bowl team before there's much pressure on him to improve. Their fans seem to see the task he has in front of him

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I live in SC and this is accurate.

You are this fired up about comments for a game you didn't fully watch? Wow.

The point about the 185 pound walkon throwing down the south Carolina defender was about effort. The first reply to me was about Jimmies and Joe's. I was just clarifying with my second comment about the walkon showing up the defender that effort is what the players can control. Effort is what coaches need to instill and manage.

Football is a violent sport. If you aren't going 100%, you are more likely to get hurt.