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re: S.O.S. and "Resumes" Are Complete BS

Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
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1.) Schedules are sometimes made 10 or more years in advance. So how can you know in 2001, whether a team you play in 2011 is going to still be a powerhouse or fall apart?
It's not to punish the teams who play a weak schedule as much to reward those who play a strong one.

Are you seriously fricking stupid enough to think that SOS should be ignored??
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:07 pm to
Yeah but what some fail to realize is OSU is claiming wins for their resume against La-Laf and Tulsa. No offense but they are not world beaters. GSU could probably beat both, but no one gives them credit because they are DI-AA. UM thought the same thing about App State.

Also they claim victories over Mizzou and Texas, both 7-5 teams. The only ranked team either beat was Mizzou beating Texas. Yes maybe their record of 7-5 is better than UF or MSU record of 6-6, but lets look at who UF and MSU played. MSU 6 losses were against every ranked SEC team in the BCS, including 4 that are currently ranked in the top 10. You think Mizzou or Texas would be be 7-5 if they had to play LSU, UA, Ark, UGA, AU, and USC. Neither team would be bowl bound IMO. UF has 5 losses against those teams.

So now those 7 wins for OSu over teams with winning records, lets not forget FBS teams like it matters, but 2 are cupcakes for a power conference(freebees) and the other 2 are no better than 6-6 MSU or UF.

Their resume is as overblown as a janitor listing his job on a resume as a sanitation engineer.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:08 pm to
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Sorry buddy, but you're missing my point. You either think one or the other.


No bud I really don't. I want to wait to form opinions on how strong teams and conferences are until after bowl season.

It's much easier to determine when you put the #6 of one conference up against the #6 team of another.

And for arguments sake, let's say just the AQ conferences. These dumbass bringing up AA schools and Houston are annoying.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83499 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:09 pm to
There is no winning your conference when there isn't a championship game. It is made up, a formality, and bullshite. Team A goes 8-4 with every win being OOC. Team B goes 11-1 and only loses to a team in conference. Team A won the conference they're the best! No frick that.
Posted by NWAustinTigers
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2004
441 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:09 pm to
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But can you penalize a team for it? It's not the other team's fault that a program went to shite. They were trying to schedule a great match-up.


No one is being penalized. Teams have to earn their way to the ship. Not winning your conference and losing a game is no way to earn your way to the ship.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:10 pm to
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No bud I really don't. I want to wait to form opinions on how strong teams and conferences are until after bowl season.

It's much easier to determine when you put the #6 of one conference up against the #6 team of another.



So you don't even watch / completely ignore regular season OOC games? Really?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:11 pm to
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No one is being penalized. Teams have to earn their way to the ship. Not winning your conference and losing a game is no way to earn your way to the ship.


Such arrogance because if the situation was reveresed every LSU fan would be defenging it and lobbying to everyone they deserved it. If you say you would not you are a fool.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:12 pm to
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So you don't even watch / completely ignore regular season OOC games? Really?


I don't and why I do not give much credit to the wins by OSU over La-Laf and Tulsa.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:13 pm to
I'm sure you were all for Boise state getting in when they'd go undefeated huh? Didn't think so.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:14 pm to
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I don't and why I do not give much credit to the wins by OSU over La-Laf and Tulsa.



So you think there's a serious chance Bama would get crushed by West Virginia this year.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83499 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:14 pm to
When you only play 12 games in a season you don't lose to a 6-6 team. You just can't afford to do that unless you have an extra game ( CCG ). All bets were off when OSU lost to a BARELY bowl eligible team. You can't determine enough by looking at who the teams beat ( S.O.S ). But look at the two losses and it's pretty clear who should go.
Posted by NWAustinTigers
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2004
441 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:14 pm to
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Such arrogance because if the situation was reveresed every LSU fan would be defenging it and lobbying to everyone they deserved it. If you say you would not you are a fool.


It is not reversed though. Quit playing what if games. So what "if" Bama won 9-6 over LSU....would you rather play us or Okie St?
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:15 pm to
But they wouldn't be in the talks of a championship game, just a bcs game which lays on the bcs system.
If we are talking about s.o.s not being the big factor, let me make an example. (sorry for making it resemble this year, but try not to put bama in your minds)
You have one team undefeated, they are going to the nc.

Now we have two more teams.
Team A. They went 11-1. In a hard conference too. The only lost came from the other team going to the NC, but they didn't win their conference.

Team B. They went 11-1. They are in a pretty good conference, but not like team A's. Their lost came from an average team, but they went to win their conference.

If we didn't use s.o.s as the main factor, you can throw out who each team lost too, and how hard their conference is because that all is a part of s.o.s. So what does that leave you to judge with? Just who won their conference.

I like s.o.s. Its what put bama in the nc.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:16 pm to
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But look at the two losses and it's pretty clear who should go


But losses are included in your s.o.s. So why would any bama fans want that thrown out of consideration?
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:17 pm to
End all be all.

HOW DO WE KNOW THE BIG 12 IS ANY GOOD?

HOW DO WE KNOW THE PAC 12 IS ANY GOOD?

LSU fans will say the Pac 12 isn't because they beat Oregon. So did USC. Transitive property doesn't work. So what's the justification for the perception of some conferences?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:17 pm to
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It is not reversed though. Quit playing what if games. So what "if" Bama won 9-6 over LSU....would you rather play us or Okie St?


That is easy OSU. And not because I think they would deserve, but because it would be a lot easier game to win. That is what this whole debate is about. Not who is more deserving but who LSU would rather play.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Hotlanta Tigerbot
Atlanta GA
Member since Oct 2010
1091 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:19 pm to
Geeez you're dumb




ETA. The OP that is
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:20 pm to
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End all be all.


Then you have to say how do we know the sec is any good?

Even though we all know the sec is the best, your argument has to include the sec.

You are just assuming we are the best, and you know what assuming does.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36321 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:21 pm to
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If LSU or AL had schedule a home/away series in 2004 with USC for 2011, you'd still be thinking you were playing a powerhouse program under Pete Carroll.
You would have been playing one of the top 5-7 teams in the country then.

These arguments are absolutely pathetic. You're completely tossing aside the unbiased portion of the rankings because they don't coincide with your beliefs.
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