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re: Sooo Georgia offense struggled in their scrimmage

Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:36 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:36 am to
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Dawg fans arent expecting the Patriots offense. Just a few more touchdowns than we got in 2019.


Why?


Based on 2019 alone, we only need to fix 2 things on offense. A viable deep threat. Less predictable running game.

Matt Luke reinstituted power into our run scheme against Baylor. That will create more opportunities for big running plays that we were lacking last season.

If the offense institutes more air raid concepts, we have the pieces to execute it. Pickens, Robinson, Cook, Burton, and Washington are all capable of thriving in air raid.

In 2019, teams were capable of sitting on the first 12 yards from scrimmage and limiting both our run and pass game. Any threat to force a change from that would have improved the offense. We have very good reason to expect to stress a defense in more ways this year.

As I said, we arent going to be 2019 LSU. But we were too talented for the results we got in 2019 (particularly in the run game). That is why Coley was fired. That is why Luke is an opportunity for more explosive running plays.
Posted by Toneski
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:41 am to
Great offenses seem to shred great defenses the last few years. I don’t know what is going on but look at the points scored in the last few years of playoff games.

Any really good team has to have a great defense, but lately no one seems to be able to stop elite offenses. In today’s game I would take an elite offense over an elite defense.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:50 am to
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Great offenses seem to shred great defenses the last few years. I don’t know what is going on but look at the points scored in the last few years of playoff games.


It is the realities of college football with dime and 7 DB packages.

Look at the great college teams. Count how many DBs deserve an honorable mention for All conference.

Then have an offense that forces 5 DBs at a minimum. 7 DBs at a maximum. How hard is it to target those weak links in the passing game with great college receivers.

Then look at all conference linebackers that have to sit on the sidelines.

Bama killed UGA in 2017 against our nickel defender. Moved the ball at will. Won the game by looking off a 3 star safety.

LSU got UGA into a 7 DB set. We had a ton of talented true freshmen out there. We got exposed.

Now image an injury or two to the secondary and what that does for a dime package

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:08 am to
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Great offenses seem to shred great defenses the last few years. I don’t know what is going on but look at the points scored in the last few years of playoff games.

It's cyclical. I mean, Auburn's offense was shredding defenses, too, until adjustments were made. Innovations come and go both on offense and defense. What works today might not work tomorrow.
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Any really good team has to have a great defense, but lately no one seems to be able to stop elite offenses. In today’s game I would take an elite offense over an elite defense.


I get what you are saying to a point, but that is exactly the philosophy Oklahoma has taken the past few years, and now you are seeing them trend back toward defense. I mean in order to be successful you should have a very good defense, too. I don't remember the last time a championship team had a really bad defense. LSU's defense struggled early in the year because of the speed their offense scored, but adjusted and improved steadily as the year went along.

Hey. It's just my opinion. I just think if teams go all out for offense they will find it difficult to win. It really takes both. the reason defenses have not seemed to be as dominant is because of the innovations the offenses have made. Defenses will change and begin stopping the offenses again soon, imo.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:09 am to
Another year of no title. In fact I don't see Georgia be good this year either.

1980.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:22 am to
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I don't see Georgia be good this year either.


We will be good this year. I am not predicting a title, though, it is possible. Unless you are insinuation a team is not good unless they win a title.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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Defenses will change and begin stopping the offenses again soon, imo.



Don't know about that.

The rules clearly favor the offense and with the vast amount of work QB's and WR's put in during the off season they are more skilled and ready to play than ever. There really wasn't much innovative about LSU's offensive last year as much as highly skilled guys playing at a high level
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:26 am to
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you guessed Florida, Auburn and Alabama, though.



Didn’t realize you played both Alabama schools in the regular season, my bad - Georgia will have 5 losses then.
Mullen ain’t beating Georgia though.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:29 am to
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Don't know about that.

It seems to always go back and forth.

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The rules clearly favor the offense and with the vast amount of work QB's and WR's put in during the off season they are more skilled and ready to play than ever. There really wasn't much innovative about LSU's offensive last year as much as highly skilled guys playing at a high level


Just seems that rules will favor an offense for awhile and then the rules committee puts in rules that will favor the defense to even it out then back again.

Right now with targeting rules favoring the offense you are seeing scores go through the roof. But, they are beginning to pull back on some of those rules and we will see things begin to shift again.

Just my opinion. I don't feel particularly strongly one way or the other, though.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:31 am to
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Didn’t realize you played both Alabama schools in the regular season, my bad - Georgia will have 5 losses then.

Yep. Both of them. So, you think Mullen won't beat Georgia, yet we have had much more success against Auburn. Why do you think Auburn is going to suddenly break through?

Also, would you like to make a ban bet about Georgia losing 5 games?
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:44 am to
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the rules committee puts in rules that will favor the defense to even it out then back again.



Dont think we're gonna turn back. I think today's fans clearly favor high octane offenses and that translates into higher ratings and more money. I personally loved watching those defensive battles in the 70's and 80's and even our UGA team
from 2002 and there's far more strategy than folks realize in those games but I dont think I represent the majority of fans watching on TV.

Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:51 am to
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A new QB with a new OC would be expected to struggle against a defense returning alot of starters. This isn't a surprise to anyone with common sense.


UGA's offense will still score plenty against lesser competition just due to a talent gap, but against Alabama, Florida, etc - that won't cut it and UGA will need to rely on their defense. It's a good defense, but those other teams have good defenses too.

UGA was considered a underdog to Alabama and slight favorite to Florida prior to your QB opting out. It doesn't bode well for you at this stage.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:32 am to
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Dont think we're gonna turn back. I think today's fans clearly favor high octane offenses and that translates into higher ratings and more money. I personally loved watching those defensive battles in the 70's and 80's and even our UGA team


Not necessarily saying you are wrong because we are both speculating, but I remember a time when receivers were putting sticky junk all over themselves to make it easier to catch and grip the football. Rules quickly changed (For a lot of reasons, not the least of which the sticky got the footballs so gunked up they were almost unusable).

I am with you. I actually love a power run game and great defensive battles. I would admit that high scoring affairs are exciting, (2017 Rose Bowl for example), but there is something about slowly imposing your will upon your opponent.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:40 am to
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UGA was considered a underdog to Alabama and slight favorite to Florida prior to your QB opting out. It doesn't bode well for you at this stage.



Florida has been the sweetheart pick for years now. UGA has win the East 3 years in a row. Of course people are expecting the streak to be broken. The SEC is touted to have more parity than other conferences.

The problem with Florida is that their defense is still young in a Todd Grantham system. And they are weak in the trenches on offense. MuLLLen is Richt 2.0. Florida will be a team that produces a challenger for the NC every 5 seasons. I'd predict that run next season due to the youth and deficiencies still on the roster.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:47 am to
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I am with you. I actually love a power run game and great defensive battles. I would admit that high scoring affairs are exciting, (2017 Rose Bowl for example), but there is something about slowly imposing your will upon your opponent.


There is something about slowly imposing your will. That something is, it sucks. As an LSU fan I'm an expert. Ask any LSU fan how fun it is to watch your team impose its will.


Now ask them about 2019.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2793 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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Florida,


Stop there is as big a talent gap between us and Florida as us and Tennessee
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:19 am to
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There is something about slowly imposing your will. That something is, it sucks. As an LSU fan I'm an expert. Ask any LSU fan how fun it is to watch your team impose its will.


The problem was that LSU was not very good about imposing their will. Hey, a lot of people won't agree with me, and that's okay if you don't. I am only speaking for myself.

LSU games were very exciting, no doubt last season. But what made you love it was winning, not necessarily the high scoring. Ask any Oklahoma fan. they scored points bu the bucket load and they were screaming for a some defense because they were not winning. If LSU lost year after year in the SEC Championship game or playoffs with your offense last season you would feel differently. It's winning that makes the difference in perception.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:29 am to
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The problem was that LSU was not very good about imposing their will. Hey, a lot of people won't agree with me, and that's okay if you don't. I am only speaking for myself.


Hey I'm not dawg'in ya. It's just that Les took all the fun out watching a game. Hell, we could play a nobody and keep them in the game for 3 quarters. I would rather lick dirt off of frogs back than watch another Les Miles offense. Les won a lot of games. Still, just excruciating to watch at times. I'll be 58 this week. I remember the old 70's slobber knocker games. Todays game are much more fun to watch. And yes, winning helps either way.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:32 am to
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Florida,



Stop there is as big a talent gap between us and Florida as us and Tennessee


What about you and South Carolina?

If you're a Georgia fan I feel like it's stupid to just keep crowing about Talent.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 10:34 am
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2137 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:38 am to
All offenses are gonna struggle against a "D" that good. If we end up playing lsu, they probably won't even score.
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