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Someone explain the legality of a university employee being gag ordered by a conference
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:00 pm
A university employee, coach or AD, or even a player, not allowed to publicly criticize the power structure of a conference headquarters that violates it's own "mission statement" every week
The university employee is not an employee of the conference obviously
How is legal to fine someone for violating that unconstitutional bullshite "bylaw"?
The university employee is not an employee of the conference obviously
How is legal to fine someone for violating that unconstitutional bullshite "bylaw"?
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 4:02 pm
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Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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unconstitutional
Contracts are very much constitutional.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
What the sam hell are you talking about?
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:03 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Let's all meet and have a non-violent protest at the SEC office. After that we can all head to the nearest Sonic and have some tots.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:08 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Contracts are very much constitutional.
Thanks. So you're arguing that a quid pro quo is acceptable.
If a coach or AD wants a job at an SEC university, they must agree to sign a contract that wholly violates their ability to speak freely
Corporations don't have those rules even. Open door policy, etc..,.....and non-disclosure agreements are part of severance packages, i.e., when employment ends, not begins
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:09 pm to deeprig9
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What the sam hell are you talking about?
stuff you don't understand I guess
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:12 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Harry Rex Vonner
I'm not a lawyer, I just play one in A Time to Kill.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:12 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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So you're arguing that a quid pro quo is acceptable.
How so?
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If a coach or AD wants a job at an SEC university, they must agree to sign a contract that wholly violates their ability to speak freely
Not entirely, but part of their job is being a public figure of that institution and with that job comes responsibilities w.r.t what you can or cant say to the media.
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Corporations don't have those rules even
Yes they do. Pretty much every reasonably sized company does. You probably just didn’t read closely enough when you signed off on some of their policies.
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non-disclosure agreements are part of severance packages, i.e., when employment ends, not begins
What? Most NDAs are signed at the beginning of employment.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:14 pm to TeddyWestside
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I'm not a lawyer, I just play one in A Time to Kill.
fictional attorney is in my tRant bio I believe.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:15 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Not entirely, but part of their job is being a public figure of that institution and with that job comes responsibilities w.r.t what you can or cant say to the media.
which is a bullshite rule
that's the point of the thread
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:16 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Corporations don't have those rules even. Open door policy, etc..,.....and non-disclosure agreements are part of severance packages, i.e., when employment ends, not begins
What world do you live in, that pretty common in the corporate world.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:16 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
My sis in law works for a billionaire and she has some type of agreement like that.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:18 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Because they signed a legal agreement saying that they would in return for getting a big fat paycheck.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:18 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I actually agree with you here. I don't think they purposely cheated you but fining coaches for commenting on bad officiating is crazy imo.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:19 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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What? Most NDAs are signed at the beginning of employment.
I don't think so. If you think it's black and white, nah, it's not
not even close
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:20 pm to bigDgator
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My sis in law works for a billionaire and she has some type of agreement like that.
And it's very possible that "agreement" is not enforceable at all
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:22 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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which is a bullshite rule
that's the point of the thread
It’s not.
If you are employed as a chef in a restaurant and you refuse to cook food, you will be fired.
If you are employed as a public representative of an institution and you act in a way that harms the reputation of that institution, you will be fired.
I don’t actually agree with the gag order targeting criticism of the refs. I think it’s unethical and demonstrates poor leadership. However, it is 100% legal and in no way violates any rights guaranteed by our country’s constitution.
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:22 pm to Commander Data
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fining coaches for commenting on bad officiating is crazy imo.
I don't think they can legally do it
I think everything THINKS they can, and they're wrong as shite
People sign it and are intimidated into believing the corporation or entity has power they don't really have
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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I don't think so.
Then you are wrong. Most big companies will have you sign a massive NDA that can even extend and incorporate future NDAs throughout your employment.
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If you think it's black and white, nah, it's not
not even close
The only time it is not black and white is when there is unlawful or highly unethical activity involved.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Advice: get over it. Stop whining. Order some testicles on Amazon.
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