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re: Someone explain the legality of a university employee being gag ordered by a conference
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:54 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:54 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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the complaint would be about having their free speech violated
Their free speech wasn’t violated. They chose to play at a SEC institution.
Now, if they got expelled for such speech, then you’d definitely have a point.
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Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:55 pm to michael corleone
Coaches and AD's and players do not work for the SEC
The SEC does not write them paychecks
What part of basic understanding are you still lacking?
The SEC does not write them paychecks
What part of basic understanding are you still lacking?
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:56 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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and again, the complaint would be about having their free speech violated
1st amendment only applies to government action not private action.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:57 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Coaches and AD's
Work for institutions that have contracts with the SEC regarding the conduct of their AD employees.
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The SEC does not write them paychecks
The SEC writes their employers paychecks.
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What part of basic understanding are you still lacking?
The world you live in where there are no rules, companies, organizations, etc.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:58 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Coaches and AD's and players do not work for the SEC
The SEC does not write them paychecks
What part of basic understanding are you still lacking?
Which doesn't matter at all.
Arkansas can write a non-disparagement clause in a contract that says you will not say any bad things about arkansas, the sec, the ncaa, or any other company that arkansas has a partnership or sponsorship agreement with.
And that would be perfectly legal.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:58 pm to krandor
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An the school is free to punish them up to kicking them off the team... legally.
And the sec can find said school for violating the contract... legally
bullshite
absolute bullshite
you're making shite up
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:59 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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unconstitutional
The constitution applies to government, not private individuals/businesses/organizations.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:00 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Their free speech wasn’t violated. They chose to play at a SEC institution.
Now, if they got expelled for such speech, then you’d definitely have a point.
college football players have already been told they "aren't allowed" to criticize the conference
they've been lied to in that regard - it's already happened
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:00 pm to deeprig9
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What the sam hell are you talking about?
He’s having a multi-thread melt. Don’t question it, just enjoy it.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:01 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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bull shite
absolute bull shite
you're making shite up
So what prevents a school from punishing a player for saying bad things about the SEC?
Please be specific and show your work.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:02 pm to krandor
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Arkansas can write a non-disparagement clause in a contract that says you will not say any bad things about arkansas, the sec, the ncaa, or any other company that arkansas has a partnership or sponsorship agreement with.
have student athletes signed something like that?
you and Plate are the kings of making up hypotheticals that don't apply
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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college football players have already been told they "aren't allowed" to criticize the conference
And?
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:03 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Harry I am going to change my opinion here.
I think you should convince the arkansas AD to come out guns a blazing against the SEC officials.
I also think you should fine some players to file EEOC complaints and any other labor claims they can think of.
The entertainment value would be wonderful as arkansas... yet again.. loses.
I think you should convince the arkansas AD to come out guns a blazing against the SEC officials.
I also think you should fine some players to file EEOC complaints and any other labor claims they can think of.
The entertainment value would be wonderful as arkansas... yet again.. loses.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:03 pm to 3down10
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The constitution applies to government, not private individuals/businesses/organizations.
there's a can of worms try and argue that to an EEOC lawyer
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:05 pm to krandor
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So what prevents a school from punishing a player for saying bad things about the SEC?
Please be specific and show your work.
LOL! The burden of proof is not on the student to "show he/she can legally do or say something"
you're lost
the burden of proof is on the entity protecting "their right" to not have bad things said about them
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:05 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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have student athletes signed something like that?
you and Plate are the kings of making up hypotheticals that don't apply
I would be shocked if there was not such a clause. Do I know 100% there is? of course not. But such clauses are common and such clauses are legal.
And really they wouldn't even have to put it in a contract. It could simply be a "team rule" that you don't do that and as we know people can be kicked off teams for violation of team rules.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:06 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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try and argue that to an EEOC lawyer
There are federal anti-discrimination laws that apply to private employers.
You are really confused about how this country works.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:09 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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And?
and, for the n'th time, it's time for a player to take this challenge and move it forward
really try to understand this time Plate
try really hard - entities that attempt to bully employees, or non employees, hire really expensive law firms to protect them, because they know fricktons of what they attempt to shove down people's throats would not stand up in court
that's why settlements happen for instance
it's a little comical that you think the legal system is black and white
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:09 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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LOL! The burden of proof is not on the student to "show he/she can legally do or say something"
you're lost
the burden of proof is on the entity protecting "their right" to not have bad things said about them
So you have zero legal basis for your opinion. About what i thought
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:12 pm to krandor
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And really they wouldn't even have to put it in a contract. It could simply be a "team rule" that you don't do that and as we know people can be kicked off teams for violation of team rules.
wow and if teams are "required by the SEC" to implement such a "team rule", I'd love to see that can of worms opened
It's strange that you seem to be against a player exercising free speech against an entity that that player is not employed by.
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