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re: So what’s the bad call everyone is posting about? I was at our game and missed this

Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:45 am to
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You're being disingenuous. This angle doesn't tell the story. CBS showed another angle that clearly shows that the blocker never touched him at all. Not lightly, not barely...not at all. Danielson even said the words "he didn't even touch him."




Okay, even if he did not touch him, there were possible angles where it absolutely looked like he touched him. I mean, how can you even argue against that? Look at the photo:




Again, I am not denying that it was a bad call. But I've seen much worse calls this year, and I think that it was an honest mistake. Get this stupid arse, whiny, conspiracy bullshite out of here.
Posted by SECROCKS!
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:46 am to
No those guys are only reacting to the bama guys crossing the line. It was easy to see on the video last night. Believe it or not when the defense is crossing the line of scrimmage you better be moving to greet them.
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Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:48 am to
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If they were, it would've been called.



have you watched any Bama games in the past several years? We've had quite a few first round Dlinemen in the Saban era, and I'd venture to say that we are ranked very close to last in holding calls in favor of our defense in that time.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by Drebin
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:49 am to
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Bama had 2 TDs called back for holding against Mizzou. One was ticky-tack, the other was a DL simply falling down. Bama went ahead and won by 4 scores.



If we were playing Mizzou yesterday, we overcome that nonsense.

In a game where the margin for error is slim to begin with, stuff like this can't happen. I don't want to hear about what happened last week, or in the Mizzou game. We're talking about the game yesterday. If the fumble is reviewed and that call doesn't happen, this suddenly is a one possession game in the 4th quarter with a shaky QB against a red hot defense. Those calls are big deals.
Posted by bamawriter
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:49 am to
Then MSU's players have super-human reactions times.
Posted by Rabern57
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:49 am to
It's not just that one play. It's several calls that favor one school that brings up conspiracy. It's not coincidence after so many "just one bad call"s.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:50 am to
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CBS showed another angle that clearly shows that the blocker never touched him at all

No, they didn't.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:50 am to
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If the fumble is reviewed and that call doesn't happen,



You're dumb arse coach had an eternity to review that call.
Posted by bamawriter
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:51 am to
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. If the fumble is reviewed and that call doesn't happen, this suddenly is a one possession game in the 4th quarter with a shaky QB against a red hot defense. Those calls are big deals.



Who is to say that the MSU fumble recovery isn't immediately followed by another bad snap that Bama recovers? You can't make assumptions about how things will play out.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:51 am to
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It's not just that one play. It's several calls that favor one school that brings up conspiracy. It's not coincidence after so many "just one bad call"s.




Posted by thatthang
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:52 am to
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Refs should call what they SEE, not what they ASSUME happened. If he didn’t see a definitive block in the back, calling one based off of context clues is poor officiating and will lead to soccer-style theatrics where every player is trying to fool the refs.


I mean, I agree. That’s what should happen, but I think you’re being a little naive here. For one, the NCAA emphasizes callling penalties when in doubt. I think it’s bullshite, but they don’t have the “definitive proof” standard you seem to suggest is the hallmark of a good ref. Second, penalties inherently are usually called with some degree of assumption. Regarding the calls on the field, when they are playing at full speed there’s only so much a human brain can process. An observed infraction usually has some element of assumption. When a face mask is called, it’s not so much that a ref was able to see the fingers wrapped around the grill every time, often he sees fingers in the general area, he sees the ball carrier’s head jerk in an unnatural direction, and he assumes the defender pulled it that way.
Posted by Drebin
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:54 am to
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have you watched any Bama games in the past several years? We've had several first round Dlinemen in the Saban era, and I'd venture to say that we are ranked very close to last in holding calls in favor of our defense.


In other words....your defense is so great that holding should be called on every play and it's some great travesty that it hasn't been?

You will be hard-pressed to find a single non-Bama fan on the rant who will agree that Bama comes up on the short end of the stick officiating-wise. Bama gets almost all of the officiating breaks, and it's been that way for years.

The ref that flagged the "block in the back" yesterday is the same ref who let Calvin Ridley run out of bounds and then come back in a catch a pass last year that was the difference in that game. He's the same guy whose father played for Alabama.
Posted by Drebin
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:55 am to
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Who is to say that the MSU fumble recovery isn't immediately followed by another bad snap that Bama recovers? You can't make assumptions about how things will play out.



Who's to say State doesn't score a TD on the next play? That's the whole point. The bad call changed the game.
Posted by Drebin
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:57 am to
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You're dumb arse coach had an eternity to review that call.



He should have called timeout. But it shouldn't have even come to that. The replay booth should have buzzed down. We've all been to football games where they replay some of the silliest things...but they don't replay that??

Does anyone here really believe that if that was a State RB that fumbled, they wouldn't have reviewed it?
Posted by bamawriter
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:58 am to
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The bad call changed the game


Or it didn't. Again, bad snap, Bama recovery, drive stills ends with a score, what changes?

It may have made a huge difference, or it might not. But you can't make a definitive statement.
Posted by bamawriter
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:59 am to
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Does anyone here really believe that if that was a State RB that fumbled, they wouldn't have reviewed it?


Arguments based on hypotheticals aren't terribly convincing.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:59 am to
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As for David Smith, I never said I agree with him being there either.


That was my point exactly...that the smart Auburn fan has no problem whatsoever with letting the second best ref in the league continue to work, but you do. It was obviously waaaaay over your head.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:00 pm to
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but they don't replay that

How do you know they didn't?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:01 pm to
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In other words....your defense is so great that holding should be called on every play and it's some great travesty that it hasn't been?




Yeah, that is exactly what I was trying to say

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You will be hard-pressed to find a single non-Bama fan on the rant who will agree that Bama comes up on the short end of the stick officiating-wise. Bama gets almost all of the officiating breaks, and it's been that way for years.


stats prove your point completely wrong. But hey, just ignore it, and keep playing the victim.


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The ref that flagged the "block in the back" yesterday is the same ref who let Calvin Ridley run out of bounds and then come back in a catch a pass last year that was the difference in that game. He's the same guy whose father played for Alabama.


Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Not with enough authority to matter


They're the fricking university presidents.

Do you always just talk out of your arse? Can you not find two functioning brain cells to rub together before posting?
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