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re: So about Sark and Freshwater

Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31647 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:53 pm to
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So a few reputable bama insiders were saying that Sark was involved in the half time adjustments against Auburn.. and that shite hit the fan after that game..
A dude that posted right here on the SECRant?
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:56 pm to
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This rule is written in a way that there are almost no specific ways to break it without being a total moron. It would be incredibly easy to litigate your way out of 95% of any issues brought up because of this rule.


There are a multitude of ways to violate the rule. It reads similarly to the acts and rules I'm used to enforcing.. vague and lots of room on both sides of the aisle. I'd expect Bama would offer up some minor self imposed sanctions/fire Kiffin and the NCAA wouldn't give a shite.

Reality is that unless rape or academics are involved the NCAA doesnt care
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3914 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:57 pm to
even if he did have input, whats the problem?

it was halftime.

nobody was playing on the field.

there was no competition going on, IT WAS HALFTIME
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21841 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:58 pm to
What a very bmy kind of thread
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:00 pm to
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There are a multitude of ways to violate the rule


In theory, yes. There is also almost zero chance that enough evidence could ever be gathered to prove the violation. The only way would be
(a) blatant idiocy on part of the violator or
(b) a witness who turns on the violator and finds/keeps evidence (presumably written or recorded) showing that the violation occurred.

Part A is never going to happen, and even if it did the chance of someone obtaining it is almost none. Part B could only theoretically occur if the whistleblower decided to rat out their boss and had thought about it enough beforehand to prepare to record/save evidence.

In conclusion, it ain't ever going to happen and the individuals wrote the rulings knew it was never going to happen.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:01 pm to
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So a few reputable bama insiders were saying that Sark was involved in the half time adjustments against Auburn


That's awfully convenient since Kiffin is wanting to jump ship. Never mind that your offense averaged like 42pts per game this year.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

What a very bmy kind of thread

More like a very bama kind of thread

OP asks one question and gets 4 pages of gifs and DINDU NUFFINS
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31647 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

What a very bmy kind of thread

Bingo!

The resident "hall monitor" is here to evaluate the situation from every perceivable angle. Law 'n Order every time!
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

OP asks one question and gets 4 pages of gifs and DINDU NUFFINS


You should probably actually read the responses before your post.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Analysts cant be involved in any decisions during a game. Rules are pretty clear


Here you go - LINK, you should book mark this and get someone over on Tiger Rant to pin it.

It seems like a weekly link that you guys need in the Fall.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64825 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:03 pm to
way too much ice in that drink.

1-2 ice cubes are all that should be used
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

That's awfully convenient since Kiffin is wanting to jump ship. Never mind that your offense averaged like 42pts per game this year.



You can believe it or not, but it's pretty clear that Kiffin and Saban have reached the separation period of their relationship.

I'm not sure I like it, but I think it's pretty clear.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:04 pm to
Looks like we agree

I'm still more interested in precedent penalties/sanctions received for overstaffing violations
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28474 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:04 pm to
Well, since no one else seems to be able to...

NCAA Division I Manual

11.7.1.1 Countable Coach. An institutional staff member or any other individual outside the institution (e.g., consultant, professional instructor) with whom the institution has made arrangements must count against coaching limits in the applicable sport as soon as the individual participates (in any) in any of the following:
(a) Provides technical or tactical instruction related to the sport to a student-athlete at any time;
(b) Makes or assists in making tactical decisions related to the sport during on-court or on-field practice or competition; or
(c) Engages in any off-campus recruiting activities.

11.7.3 Noncoaching Staff Member with Sport-Specific Responsibilities. [A] A noncoaching staff member with sport-specific responsibilities (e.g., director of operations, administrative assistant) is prohibited from participating in on-court or on-field activities (e.g., assist with drills, throw batting practice, signal plays) and is prohibited from participating with or observing student-athletes in the staff member’s sport who are engaged in nonorganized voluntary activities (e.g., pick-up games).

So the question is, if Sark is not on the field, has he participated in "on field activities", and if all he does is pass along information, has he "assisted in making tactical decisions"?
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

I'm still more interested in precedent penalties/sanctions received for overstaffing violations


My guess is it'd be something towards the program and reducing the off-field staff or something along those lines, and it would 100% lead to stricter rules on non-on field coaches (which will probably happen soon anyway).
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
4302 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:06 pm to
Now I know why Auburn lost.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22949 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:06 pm to
Who exactly would care about this anyway?

Halftime adjustments hell, AU was never winning the game with the way our offense was so completely shut down.

Alabama won on the field.

Period.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18374 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:07 pm to
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way too much ice in that drink. 1-2 ice cubes are all that should be used


You sir, have fine tastes
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