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re: SMU Death Penalty

Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by Bronco Calrissian
Member since Dec 2019
671 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:30 pm to
If I recall at the time, there was a lawyer at the NCAA that was a Texas grad. Also, SMU got some kind of sanctions from the NCAA after beating Texas. They do briefly mention that in the 30 for 30.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2253 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:31 pm to
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My memory from the 30 for 30 documentary is a little fuzzy, but I'm thinking they got busted the first time and kept paying their players anyway, and then they got busted again, which is when they got the death penalty.


The line that sticks with me is the higher-up at the school saying something to the effect of, "We promised them that we would pay them, and as gentlemen, we couldn't go back on our word."
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2896 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:56 pm to
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From what I understood was they had signed contracts with some players and had to continue paying them. They backed themselves into a hole they couldn’t get out of.
It wasn’t a matter of signed contracts, but, rather, the fact that there were a bunch of deals that the NCAA didn’t uncover in the original investigation, and SMU feared that if they didn’t keep paying, those guys would rat on them (and they ultimately did).
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:07 pm to
They also paid coeds to sleep w the recruits.

But yeah… crazy how far things have come.
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
3188 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:11 pm to
What happened is TU had their beat writers investigating every other team in the SWC keep the NCAA off their back.

Only a coincidence that TU was the only program with no violations or probation periods.

True espionage shite.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27138 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:15 pm to
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It wasn’t a matter of signed contracts, but, rather, the fact that there were a bunch of deals that the NCAA didn’t uncover in the original investigation, and SMU feared that if they didn’t keep paying, those guys would rat on them (and they ultimately did).


Ok, I remembered they were paying folks they had to keep paying, thanks for the clarification.

They also probably paid the refs…

The controversial pass interference call against Arkansas in their 1982 game against the SMU Pony Express occurred late in the fourth quarter, directly influencing the final 17-17 tie. The call was considered so egregious that it influenced a future change in NCAA rules regarding pass interference penalties.

Key Details of the Play:
Context: #9 Arkansas led #2 SMU 17-10 late in the fourth quarter when SMU was driving at Texas Stadium.

The Play: SMU quarterback Lance McIlhenny threw a pass down the left sideline that was intercepted or overthrown to receiver Jackie Wilson. Arkansas defensive back Nathan Jones was in tight coverage and appeared to be in a better position to play the ball.

The Call: Referee Horton Nesrsta called defensive pass interference on Jones.

Controversy: Replays suggested that Wilson ran into the back of Jones, rather than Jones interfering with Wilson.

Impact: Because pass interference was a "spot foul" at the time, this gave SMU a 40-yard gain, placing them in the red zone. SMU scored shortly after to tie the game at 17.


We got screwed every way from Sunday in the SWC, I was so happy when we left that shithole…
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 9:17 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7155 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:19 pm to
We almost got it too in the late 80s. Same with Bama in 2000.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9231 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:40 pm to
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They also paid coeds to sleep w the recruits.

I cannot imagine any recruit being opposed to this.
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