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re: Smael Mondon charges DROPPED
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:56 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:56 pm to deeprig9
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He still would have made the AJC's "encounter" list. You know, the one they headline as arrests, but are actually citations when you read the fine print.
You mean the articles Vols and dumber than Gump Gumps break their fingers and the English language to post about here?
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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So they were dropped to what the original charges should have been with a ticket given instead of being arrested. Got it.
At best this is what happened. What probably actually happened was the DA realized they were about to get their clock cleaned and reduced it to save costs and Mondon accepted the deal to avoid any further costs and trouble. At the end of the day they law should NEVER be enforced....it is based on feelings and nothing more. Laws should be free of ambiguity. Speed limits are a good example. 55 MPH means 55 MPH. If we lived in a world where a cops feelings were what speed limits were based on we'd all be subject to the feelings of cops....that would be untenable.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:01 pm to JoinTheResistance
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How many people have to die before the good people of Athens start taking this seriously? Shameful
It will probably be many, many years before the good people of Athens realize that laws should not be based on the feelings of cops and should, instead, be quantitative and not ambiguous. Most people are probably perfectly fine with the state fining them, or in this case locking them up and detaining them, based on the feelings of a cop....until it happens to them and then they will be madder than a wet hen....
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:06 pm to 3down10
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I'm making fun of you trying to claim a plea deal is somehow proof of innocence.
They are, without fail, the result of the state knowing they stand a good chance of facing an acquittal on the original charges because the state over played its hand. In this case Mondon is indeed guilt of hurting an ACC police officers feelings...by definition that is what driving too fast for conditions means in the state of Georgia...it is based on the ticketing officers feelings. It could well mean you were driving perfectly safe for conditions but the officer thought you could be driving even more safely...and he would be right and you would be guilty and unless you have the money, and more importantly the time, you are guilty of the "crime" regardless of what actually happened because you can not fight feelings in court successfully very often.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:15 pm to Dawg4Life47
A football players charges got dropped?! Now I've seen everything!
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:16 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Swamp manager asked that charge against Hernandez be dropped
Jeff Schweers Staff writer
GAINESVILLE - The man who, according to a 2007 Gainesville police report, was punched in the head by Aaron Hernandez asked the state attorney to drop the felony battery charge weeks later, after telling police he had spoken with legal staff and coaches from the University of Florida about settling the case.
Innocence proved!
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:18 pm to Croot
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it was all bullshite to begin with so who GAS
I don't give a crap about what he did. Young people frick up.
I'm laughing at Georgia fans who are trying to pretend like he was innocent.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
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They are, without fail, the result of the state knowing they stand a good chance of facing an acquittal on the original charges because the state over played its hand. In this case Mondon is indeed guilt of hurting an ACC police officers feelings...by definition that is what driving too fast for conditions means in the state of Georgia...it is based on the ticketing officers feelings. It could well mean you were driving perfectly safe for conditions but the officer thought you could be driving even more safely...and he would be right and you would be guilty and unless you have the money, and more importantly the time, you are guilty of the "crime" regardless of what actually happened because you can not fight feelings in court successfully very often.
bullshite. The state offers pleas to avoid the costs of a trial and to just settle the matter. If they didn't have a case, there would be no reason for the person to plea to lesser charges, and/or the state would just charge them with the lesser charges.
I've had cops give me bullshite charges. The DA tried to offer me a plea, I told them what actually happened(it was actually a group of 6 of us), and the charges were dropped completely. No plea.
Now, if you want to claim the state can often trump up charges in order to force a plea on lesser charges then that does happen quite a bit. However, that's not something that's going to happen on traffic stops. I've had this happen to me as well.
You're gonna have to go bullshite someone who doesn't have experience with these things.
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:29 pm to 3down10
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I'm laughing at Georgia fans who are trying to pretend like he was innocent.
He is innocent, of reckless driving.
He is guilty of, driving too fast for conditions.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:31 pm to 3down10
I'm laughing at a Bama fan who is so fired up about a 20 year old college student and a speeding ticket. Gees dude....you need a hobby or a girlfriend or.....something. 
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:40 pm to JoinTheResistance
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How many people have to die before the good people of Athens start taking this seriously? Shameful
More than two.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:12 pm to 3down10
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Another person who doesn't understand that LEO's overcharge on traffic misdemeanors hoping everything sticks
FIFY
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:22 pm to 3down10
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they didn't have a case, there would be no reason for the person to plea to lesser charges, and/or the state would just charge them with the lesser charges.
Complete horseshite.
LEO's continually overcharge on a something like this especially with younger drivers.
OBC's and phones can tell you the precise speed of the car in question at the time of the incident and I would bet that was presented to the solicitor.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:24 pm to 3down10
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bullshite. The state offers pleas to avoid the costs of a trial and to just settle the matter. If they didn't have a case, there would be no reason for the person to plea to lesser charges, and/or the state would just charge them with the lesser charges.
You are simply wrong. The cops overcharge the "violation". The charged person knows only that they are facing a larger fine and possibly jail, In this case they were also facing a pretty serious hit to their reputation as a public figure. The DA knows they had a pretty shitty case and that the cop was at best over zealous. They offer a deal and the person charged takes it to avoid risk and exposure. Its the way the system works. If everyone could afford to lawyer up and had the time to do it there would be no way they'd write simple speeding tickets...because the cops frick it up almost every time, people pay up because it is cheaper and more convenient. It happens with serious crime also...the state is almost unable to get a conviction of any sort if the accused has the money to be represented properly and the time. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% of ALL crimes, regardless of severity, in the US, that end up in the accused being "guilty" are plea bargains. The state is incapable of actually trying 1/10th of the crimes they prosecute...the system would grind to a complete halt.
It happens with traffic stops every second of every minute of every day in the US. They charge someone with a host of violations and that person winds up paying a fine for one or two and the rest are dismissed. The person wouldn't pay a dime if it weren't simply easier to pay a little than to fight the charges.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:25 pm to 3down10
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I'm laughing at Georgia fans who are trying to pretend like he was innocent
I didn’t say he was innocent, I just said it wasn’t his fault. It was the cars.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:26 pm to RD Dawg
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Complete horseshite.
LEO's continually overcharge on a something like this especially with younger drivers.
OBC's and phones can tell you the precise speed of the car in question at the time of the incident and I would bet that was presented to the solicitor.
In which case he wouldn't take a plea deal, he would just win the case.
You are just making shite up.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:26 pm to Dawgfanman
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He is innocent, of reckless driving.
He is guilty of, driving too fast for conditions.
He is guilty as hell of driving too fast for conditions which means he was guilty of stepping on the cops feelings because as the law is written in Georgia is all about the cops feelings....Mondon did what about 99.99% of people cited for traffic violations does....paid a little to avoid risk and exposure and to get it the hell over. Who knows if he is actually guilty of ANY wrongdoing beyond hurting the cops fee fees.....
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
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You are simply wrong. The cops overcharge the "violation". The charged person knows only that they are facing a larger fine and possibly jail, In this case they were also facing a pretty serious hit to their reputation as a public figure. The DA knows they had a pretty shitty case and that the cop was at best over zealous. They offer a deal and the person charged takes it to avoid risk and exposure. Its the way the system works. If everyone could afford to lawyer up and had the time to do it there would be no way they'd write simple speeding tickets...because the cops frick it up almost every time, people pay up because it is cheaper and more convenient. It happens with serious crime also...the state is almost unable to get a conviction of any sort if the accused has the money to be represented properly and the time. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% of ALL crimes, regardless of severity, in the US, that end up in the accused being "guilty" are plea bargains. The state is incapable of actually trying 1/10th of the crimes they prosecute...the system would grind to a complete halt.
It happens with traffic stops every second of every minute of every day in the US. They charge someone with a host of violations and that person winds up paying a fine for one or two and the rest are dismissed. The person wouldn't pay a dime if it weren't simply easier to pay a little than to fight the charges.
It is not common with traffic stops. In fact, what is more common with traffic stops is the exact opposite.
If it's drugs and other things of that nature, yeah they often over charge. But that's not what happened here.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:39 pm to 3down10
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You are just making shite up.
LMAO
!So why didn't he get charged with speeding?
You know exactly why and if they had clear evidence from his phone or OBC I can promise you he would've got charged with it.
If ya don't think LEO's don't overcharge on particular traffic violations you're clueless.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:47 pm to 3down10
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Doesn't know what a plea is.
Typically it means the prosecution doesn't have enough evidence to convict so they plea down the charges.
Or it could mean that the court system is clogged and the charges are not serious enough to pursue anything serious.
Either way, it says legally Mondon is given a ticket and the more serious charges are dropped.
Do you have a different definition?
A plea deal (also known as a plea bargain or plea agreement) is an agreement between a defendant and a prosecutor12345. In a plea deal:
The defendant agrees to plead guilty or "no contest" to one or more charges.
In exchange, the prosecutor may drop some charges, reduce a charge to a less serious offense, or recommend a specific sentence.
Plea deals help avoid the need for a trial.
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