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re: SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:17 am to JJxvi
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:17 am to JJxvi
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Are they actually doing that? Because that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. Who are even the “lower 8” and what makes anyone think those will permanently be the “lower 8”
It's the same logic that the SEC used to set up cross-division permanents in 1992.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:19 am to GeorgeWest
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IMO, it is a mistake to NOT keep the 2 divisions (Ala, AU to SECE and Mizzou, OU, UTX to SECW) and play your 7 division games and 2 rotating games each year.
But then the West division would just be the old SWC/Big Eight/Big XII and the east division would be the actual SEC. What's "SEC" about playing Texas, OU, A&M, and Missouri every season? Seven of the original ten would be in the east division.
Furthermore, the east would have five of the top 15 programs of all time in a single division, and five of the "big six." That's a ridiculous proposal.
West
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Missouri
East
South Carolina
Georgia
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Florida
This is one of the reasons I hate expansion to begin with. What in the flying frick is Southeastern about Missouri and Oklahoma? And College Station?
Absolutely nothing.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:22 am to truth22
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Oh, I’m sure Snakey will find out their vote, he just wont tell A&M about it until it’s done.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:24 am to Tornado Alley
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East
South Carolina
Georgia
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Florida
Teams in this proposed division have won 12 national championships since the original expansion.
Five of the eight teams in this division are in the top 18 of the winningest programs of all time (in terms of all time wins). (Bama #2, Tennessee #9, Georgia #11, Auburn #13, Florida #18).
It's ridiculous to even ponder.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:26 am to Whentheleveebreaks
I am just going to assume we will get fricked over somehow with the scheduling. I have made peace with it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:32 am to ColoradoAg
I mean, Texas should be voting 3-6. Unless they are scared to play us and the hogs every year.
OU, not sure. They probably vote 1-7 unless Texas tells them they have to vote 3-6.
OU, not sure. They probably vote 1-7 unless Texas tells them they have to vote 3-6.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:33 am to Whentheleveebreaks
Why would Texas and OU get a vote?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:36 am to deaux
They don't. Not members
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:39 am to Tornado Alley
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Teams in this proposed division have won 12 national championships since the original expansion.
It would be incredibly poor planning to include Saban's recent success in any division planning that will affect scheduling for decades to come.
The number of titles Alabama has in the last 15 years is not indicative of past or future success. Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn all have had strong programs over the last 30 years, all have multiple championships between conference and national. Yes, it's tilted east a bit if you only consider traditional SEC powers, but that ignores the fricking cliff that Tennessee and Florida have run off of as well as the money and energy that A&M has proven that its willing to put into its program.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:41 am to Tornado Alley
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Teams in this proposed division have won 12 national championships since the original expansion.
And? Bama under Saban is obviously an outlier. The West would have LSU, Texas, and OU. And A&M has obviously supplanted Vols in the SEC pecking order.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:43 am to Tornado Alley
East: Bama, Aub, UF, UGA
West: LSU, OU, UT, A&M
Maybe Vols eventually get their shite together and the East is tougher but right now they're on the same level as Arkansas. Like it's been over 20 years now since they've even finished in the top 10.
West: LSU, OU, UT, A&M
Maybe Vols eventually get their shite together and the East is tougher but right now they're on the same level as Arkansas. Like it's been over 20 years now since they've even finished in the top 10.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:56 am to wadewilson
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It would be incredibly poor planning to include Saban's recent success in any division planning that will affect scheduling for decades to come.
The number of titles Alabama has in the last 15 years is not indicative of past or future success. Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn all have had strong programs over the last 30 years, all have multiple championships between conference and national. Yes, it's tilted east a bit if you only consider traditional SEC powers, but that ignores the fricking cliff that Tennessee and Florida have run off of as well as the money and energy that A&M has proven that its willing to put into its program.
How can you ignore what the Alabama program was before Saban? I know, I know, football started in 2000, yada yada yada.
How can you also say Florida has fallen off a cliff? They won the East in in 2020! They've won 35 games since 2018, just one less game than LSU.
If anyone has fallen off a cliff, it's been the Tigers and their .500 record the past two seasons.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:57 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Bama under Saban is obviously an outlier.
I agree Saban has been spectacular, but I think some of y'all are thinking Bama is going to turn into South Carolina once Saban leaves.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:05 am to Tornado Alley
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How can you ignore what the Alabama program was before Saban? I know, I know, football started in 2000, yada yada yada.
What, that they were one of the best programs in college football?
There's a huge difference between that and what they've done since 2007.
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How can you also say Florida has fallen off a cliff? They won the East in in 2020! They've won 35 games since 2018, just one less game than LSU.
If anyone has fallen off a cliff, it's been the Tigers and their .500 record the past two seasons.
Maybe I was a little harsh on Florida, but LSU did very recently have the most successful season in SEC football history, and we've been at or near the top of the SEC west pretty consistently.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:19 am to wadewilson
I’m pretty sure two divisions is not even being considered. They are focused on all the teams playing each other more.
If division like format is preferred by a school then 1-7 should be their vote bc it’s closer to it.
If division like format is preferred by a school then 1-7 should be their vote bc it’s closer to it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:54 am to Whentheleveebreaks
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I’m pretty sure two divisions is not even being considered. They are focused on all the teams playing each other more.
4 divisions.
You can split the teams up equitably enough and it'll save your AD's life on the travel budget.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:12 am to Tornado Alley
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I agree Saban has been spectacular, but I think some of y'all are thinking Bama is going to turn into South Carolina once Saban leaves.
Link to me saying that?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:19 am to Whentheleveebreaks
Truthfully, I don't understand the rationale that anyone has against the following:
SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC South: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M
SEC West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas
SEC Network A: Content focused on the SEC East and North
SEC Network B: Content focused on the SEC South and West
SEC Semi-Finals: Atlanta and Dallas
SEC Championship: Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, New Orleans
Conference Games: 9 (3 Divisional, 6 Rotational)
Rivalry Games: Eliminated (or having them set somewhere between 1-3)
SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC South: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M
SEC West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas
SEC Network A: Content focused on the SEC East and North
SEC Network B: Content focused on the SEC South and West
SEC Semi-Finals: Atlanta and Dallas
SEC Championship: Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, New Orleans
Conference Games: 9 (3 Divisional, 6 Rotational)
Rivalry Games: Eliminated (or having them set somewhere between 1-3)
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:31 am to rbtgoodson
So 14 games before the CFP with every other conference only playing 13?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:32 am to rbtgoodson
quote:So 4 SEC teams would have to play and extra game just to get to the SECCG and rivalry games are eliminated?
Truthfully, I don't understand the rationale that anyone has against the following:
SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC South: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M
SEC West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas
SEC Network A: Content focused on the SEC East and North
SEC Network B: Content focused on the SEC South and West
SEC Semi-Finals: Atlanta and Dallas
SEC Championship: Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, New Orleans
Conference Games: 9 (3 Divisional, 6 Rotational)
Rivalry Games: Eliminated (or having them set somewhere between 1-3)
No thanks. Why would the SEC put themselves at a disadvantage by forcing the SEC champ to have to play an additional game while the other conferences would have one less game?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:35 am
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