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Should flinching on a pickoff without throwing the ball be outlawed in baseball?

Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68466 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:27 pm
Adds absolutely nothing to the game and slows the game down. At the very least, put a limit on how many times you can attempt to pickoff each at bat. If you do it more than 3 times in one at bat, the third time should be a balk.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:29 pm to
It's an attempt to keep the runner closer at bay, I don't know how effective it is though.
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slows the game down


It's baseball.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30262 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:29 pm to
Nope

It is aggravating but it's a part of baseball. Keep the runner close without using up your arm.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68466 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:30 pm to
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It's baseball.

They put a clock between pitches to speed the game up. Why shouldn't this be done?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:34 pm to
Why does the game need to be sped up?


(But I'm a traditionalist)
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68466 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Why does the game need to be sped up?

Because the speed of the game is the main reason so many people find it boring and don't watch as many games. I love baseball but it can drag on forever sometimes when pitchers get in those "duels" with base runners. I wish home crowds would boo their own pitcher after about the 4th or 5th pickoff attempt.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15752 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:37 pm to
It would slow the game. Would equate to more pick off attempts.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:38 pm to
If a pitcher was doing it for every single base runner, it would get frustrating. But it is a good strategy against someone with a high percentage of steals I suppose. On a pick-off play, is a pitcher allowed to throw straight to second base on a runner stealing from first? I've always thought that would be hilarious. Generally when a base runner takes off, he has his head down in a charge and may not even notice.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68466 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:39 pm to
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It's would slow the game. Would equate to more pick off attempts.

I'm saying put a limit on how many pickoff attempts you can have each pitch. Not just the flinch. The flinch should be outlawed altogether.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:39 pm to
Yes, I'm for anything that lengthens the game.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:39 pm to
Yeah, I get that.
It was kind of a rhetorical question.
Part of what I personally love most about baseball is kickin back.

People need to slow down a little.


Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57693 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:41 pm to
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If you do it more than 3 times in one at bat, the third time should be a balk.
This is retarded. If they throw over 3 times, the runner could get as big of a lead as he wanted without threat of a pickoff attempt.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57693 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:43 pm to
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On a pick-off play, is a pitcher allowed to throw straight to second base on a runner stealing from first? I've always thought that would be hilarious
That's not too terribly uncommon, but pitchers are taught to throw to first anyway even if the runner is caught stealing. Then they just run him down from between the bases.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:44 pm to
Well at first he said flinch, then he changed it to pickoff attempts. If it's the latter, then yeah it's basically a free stolen base attempt.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:46 pm to
No. I used to love to wear those bastards out making them dive back again and again. I'd do it just to be a dick.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:48 pm to
As long as the pitchers doesn't clinch when they flinch, then it should be alright. It should flinching without clinching. But if they clinch while flinching, then it's wrong....unless they wince while they clinch, then flinching is OK.....but flinching and clinching, without wincing. Well that's just cheating.....
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:49 pm to
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But if they clinch while flinching, then it's wrong....unless they wince while they clinch, then flinching is OK



Hey, why don't I just go eat some hay, make things out of clay, lay by the bay? I just may! What'd ya say?
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9406 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:50 pm to
Can't pick to an unoccupied base. However, you can step off and throw to an unoccupied base.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:51 pm to
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Can't pick to an unoccupied base.


That's what I was wondering.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57693 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:54 pm to
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No. I used to love to wear those bastards out making them dive back again and again. I'd do it just to be a dick.
This. Especially if they were really wirey and you could tell they just wanted to run. I'd make that bitch hug the bag.
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