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Serious Baseball Question: Is Bama’s strategy of starting our #3 pitcher…

Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:50 pm
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:50 pm
in the first game, followed by our #1 on Sat and then #2 on Sunday “bush league” or smart coaching? Other teams aren’t going to re-align their rotation to match it.

I lean smart coaching, but I’ve been wanting the Braves to do that when there are 3 game series to start the postseason. It maximizes the chance of winning 2/3 IMO.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:52 pm to
In a situation where the weather may be uncertain, holding your cards is wise. We did the same thing with Dutton.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:52 pm to
Neither
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:52 pm to
I think smart.

Starting your #3 in game 1 of a regional isn’t a terrible gamble.

In a weekend series/super regional, you give yourself an advantage on paper in 2 of the 3 games.
Posted by TerraForma
Moscow, ID
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:53 pm to
Who really knows. Your Maryland coach seems competent.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:53 pm to
For an example of this burning you look at Tennessee during our series last week. They basically burned Doyle to get half an inning in.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:54 pm to
It just means that you don't have a true #1 that can go head to head with other team's #1.

Your coach is conceding a loss while trying to win a series. It's not much different than how they coach in regionals to try to have a late weekend advantage.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:55 pm to
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In a situation where the weather may be uncertain, holding your cards is wise. We did the same thing with Dutton.


We’ve been sacrificing the Friday game for a few weeks now. Ever since Zane was struggling a bit and we moved him to Saturday on what I believe was our first Thurs-Sat series of the season. We never moved him back and just started giving away the first game of the series (except to Miz…anyone can beat them 3 straight times….well, almost anyone).
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:57 pm to
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It just means that you don't have a true #1 that can go head to head with other team's #1.


100%

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Your coach is conceding a loss while trying to win a series. It's not much different than how they coach in regionals to try to have a late weekend advantage.


I get the strategy and like it, just wasn’t sure how it was viewed by opponents. Most teams don’t do that.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:59 pm to
It tells your players that you don’t believe your #1 pitcher can beat another team’s #1 pitcher.
IMHO, it is a poor strategic move during the Regular Season.

Now occasionally in a Regional/SR it can make sense if you feel another pitcher is a better matchup against a particular opponent.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:00 pm to
It worked this weekend
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:08 pm to
You can do whatever you want. Seems odd to almost give away the first game but works for me.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:09 pm to
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It worked this weekend


And should have worked last weekend if we didn’t give up 7 in the last 2 innings to Vandy. We are a 3rd bullpen arm short of being truly competitive in almost every series.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

It just means that you don't have a true #1 that can go head to head with other team's #1. Your coach is conceding a loss while trying to win a series. It's not much different than how they coach in regionals to try to have a late weekend advantage.


No. It’s expensing a risk for more certainty going forward. The guy we threw Thursday against Carolina put in arguably his best career start. The risk paid off.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:14 pm to
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No. It’s expensing a risk for more certainty going forward. The guy we threw Thursday against Carolina put in arguably his best career start. The risk paid off.


In weather risk situation that’s true, but we’re doing it regardless of weather. We’ve been starting our #3 guy for several series now irrespective of weather.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:16 pm to
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In weather risk situation that’s true, but we’re doing it regardless of weather. We’ve been starting our #3 guy for several series now irrespective of weather.


In a world with perfectly predictable weather you are *essentially* conceding the loss in game one by backloading your odds.

But I think your skipper is calculating it, this being May.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:17 pm to
Weather interrupts the series, better to risk a short start for your Sunday starter than your ace.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:38 pm to
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For an example of this burning you look at Tennessee during our series last week. They basically burned Doyle to get half an inning in.


I mean that could happen any day if the ran stops the game after the top of the 1st.

Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
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I mean that could happen any day if the ran stops the game after the top of the 1st.
especially if your coach is too dumb to look at the radar and stupidly declines to accept it as reality.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Larry Seinfeld
Fayetteville
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
Arkansas did that some on the 90s when we were struggling. We were just outclassed by talent at times. In some ways I think it’s smart. In some waysI think it’s kind of bush.
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