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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:06 pm
Gotta think the key for Kentucky would be to wear down Auburn with a heavy dose of rushing?
Auburn still has a good DL, but they will miss Brown, Davidson, and Coe up front. With Kentucky having arguably the best OL in the SEC, you gotta think running Wilson or any of the three RBs in between the tackles is a good strategy.
The good news for Auburn is they have two really good ILBs. Terry Wilson just needs to do enough in the air to keep them honest so they aren’t stacking the box all game.
Which shouldn’t be super difficult. Auburn lost both corners and safeties from last year.
To be honest I think this game will be higher scoring than people think. If Auburn’s brand new OL can settle in then I think Auburn will score relatively easy.
My current prediction is:
Auburn- 34
Kentucky- 24
There are definitely question marks on both sides I wouldn’t be surprised by anything. For Kentucky, it’s how well Wilson can play coming off their injury. For Auburn, it’s their OL and secondary.
I’m ready for football.
Auburn still has a good DL, but they will miss Brown, Davidson, and Coe up front. With Kentucky having arguably the best OL in the SEC, you gotta think running Wilson or any of the three RBs in between the tackles is a good strategy.
The good news for Auburn is they have two really good ILBs. Terry Wilson just needs to do enough in the air to keep them honest so they aren’t stacking the box all game.
Which shouldn’t be super difficult. Auburn lost both corners and safeties from last year.
To be honest I think this game will be higher scoring than people think. If Auburn’s brand new OL can settle in then I think Auburn will score relatively easy.
My current prediction is:
Auburn- 34
Kentucky- 24
There are definitely question marks on both sides I wouldn’t be surprised by anything. For Kentucky, it’s how well Wilson can play coming off their injury. For Auburn, it’s their OL and secondary.
I’m ready for football.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:07 pm
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:12 pm to diddlydawg7
Who is their d line now?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:17 pm to AllDawgCK
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Who is their d line now?
DE- Big Kat Bryant (Senior)
DT- Colby Wooden (RsFreshman)
DT- Tyrone Truesdell (Senior) (30 tackles last year)
BUCK- Derick Hall (Sophomore) (13 tackles last year)
2nd string
DE- Jaren Handy (7 tackles last year)
DT- Daquan Newkirk (4 tackles last year)
DT- Zykeivious Walker (True Frosh)
BUCk- TD Moultry (4 tackles last year)
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:17 pm to diddlydawg7
Coe was largely absent in 2019, FWIW.
Any SEC team will test the Auburn DL this season. There’s no reason not to. Truesdell brings a lot of experience back to the interior DL. He’ll be joined inside by a redshirt freshman, Colby Wooden. Garner rotates pretty heavily so we’re not too sure what the dominant line will end up looking like.
Any SEC team will test the Auburn DL this season. There’s no reason not to. Truesdell brings a lot of experience back to the interior DL. He’ll be joined inside by a redshirt freshman, Colby Wooden. Garner rotates pretty heavily so we’re not too sure what the dominant line will end up looking like.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:20 pm to diddlydawg7
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For Auburn, it’s their OL and secondary.
I’d say OL and DL, followed by WR. It’s fair to question RB too despite the talent and depth. They’re just unproven.
As an Auburn fan, I’m not too concerned with the secondary yet. It’s down the list of question marks
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:24 pm to diddlydawg7
Obviously the biggest question for Auburn is their offensive line, whose ability to play competently will determine Auburn's fate not only against Kentucky but their whole season.
Other than that, many reporters and other prognosticators are most interested in how Bo Nix develops, but I think we pretty much know how Bo Nix is going to do: he is going to be improved from last season but will not be quite elite.
To me, the biggest question will be whether Auburn can develop a consistent run game. At times last year, Auburn could not develop a consistent run game against top teams, which I think had more to do with Bo Nix's well-publicized unranked/ranked splits in his stats last year than people consider. For example, Bo Nix had to throw 50 passes last year in the DSOR due to the insufficient run game.
We know Auburn has a stable of some pretty good backs, but the big question goes back to the first: will their offensive line be able to get a push and open holes? If so, it will help Bo Nix be more efficient.
Kentucky has a good run game, a very athletic quarterback, and Auburn's secondary is an unknown.
I think we will learn alot about both of these teams, but my inclination is Auburn 27, UK 20.
Other than that, many reporters and other prognosticators are most interested in how Bo Nix develops, but I think we pretty much know how Bo Nix is going to do: he is going to be improved from last season but will not be quite elite.
To me, the biggest question will be whether Auburn can develop a consistent run game. At times last year, Auburn could not develop a consistent run game against top teams, which I think had more to do with Bo Nix's well-publicized unranked/ranked splits in his stats last year than people consider. For example, Bo Nix had to throw 50 passes last year in the DSOR due to the insufficient run game.
We know Auburn has a stable of some pretty good backs, but the big question goes back to the first: will their offensive line be able to get a push and open holes? If so, it will help Bo Nix be more efficient.
Kentucky has a good run game, a very athletic quarterback, and Auburn's secondary is an unknown.
I think we will learn alot about both of these teams, but my inclination is Auburn 27, UK 20.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:45 pm to TeddyWestside
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To me, the biggest question will be whether Auburn can develop a consistent run game. At times last year, Auburn could not develop a consistent run game against top teams, which I think had more to do with Bo Nix's well-publicized unranked/ranked splits in his stats last year than people consider. For example, Bo Nix had to throw 50 passes last year in the DSOR due to the insufficient run game.
It may be that Auburn's run game was inconsistent but if Georgia is your only data point you're not to be listened to.
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I think we pretty much know how Bo Nix is going to do: he is going to be improved from last season but will not be quite elite.
Unfortunately I agree with this
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:48 pm to TheJones
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Truesdell brings a lot of experience back to the interior DL
What's your take on Truesdale? I watched his highlights and my opinion is that he's not good enough to prevent our run defense from consistently giving up too many yards.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:51 pm to diddlydawg7
Am I missing something or is Kentucky basically built as UGA-lite? Strong defense, power running game, question mark at QB
I’m not concerned about our defense. Yeah, we lost Brown and Davidson, and we won’t be able to replace them at the top two spots, but Steele rotates the line a lot that I think we won’t see as much of a step down as some people are thinking. There’s an argument that our depth is better this year than last year.
Same can basically be said about our CBs.
I trust (for now) Bo’s development, and our RB and WR rooms are both stacked to standard SEC-caliber. But our o-line scares me to death. I hope Chad Morris can scheme around it, but jeez. We haven’t recruited well there in a long time and it’s showing.
I posted 24-17 AU on the Auburn board but a 17-13 game that goes either way wouldn’t surprise me either
I’m not concerned about our defense. Yeah, we lost Brown and Davidson, and we won’t be able to replace them at the top two spots, but Steele rotates the line a lot that I think we won’t see as much of a step down as some people are thinking. There’s an argument that our depth is better this year than last year.
Same can basically be said about our CBs.
I trust (for now) Bo’s development, and our RB and WR rooms are both stacked to standard SEC-caliber. But our o-line scares me to death. I hope Chad Morris can scheme around it, but jeez. We haven’t recruited well there in a long time and it’s showing.
I posted 24-17 AU on the Auburn board but a 17-13 game that goes either way wouldn’t surprise me either
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:56 pm to TeddyWestside
I think the AU Offensive line will be better in the run game this year than they have been since 2017. The last group just were mean. The guys on this line have some meanness in them which will make for good road graders...I think pass pro may take a step back (last years unit actually wasn't terrible in pass pro)
That is the key of the season the OL. As for the rest of the Offense..I expect Bo Nix to take a big step forward. He has a plethora of weapons at RB, TE and WR. The weapons are there...it just hinges on the Line.
The Defense should actually be really good. The front 4 will take a step back losing Brown and Davidson, but there is a wealth of talent there. I don't see any superstar power but everybody is solid. If one of either Big Kat, TD Moultry, or Derick Hall can take that next step as an edge rusher...look out.
The LB corp is the best unit on the roster. Britt is a headhunter, Pappoe is a freak, and Zacoby McClain is a heat seeking missile. Have a lot of talented young guys battling for the 4th LB in the roation.
Secondary is replacing 4 starters, but I honestly think they take a step forward. McCreary played a ton last year and will be a lockdown Corner. Jaylon SImpson will be on the other side and have heard nothing but good things. Of course there will be growing pains. The safeties are Sherwood and SMoke Monday who have played alot over the past 2 years. I think all and all this group is more athletic and talented than the ones who departed.
That is the key of the season the OL. As for the rest of the Offense..I expect Bo Nix to take a big step forward. He has a plethora of weapons at RB, TE and WR. The weapons are there...it just hinges on the Line.
The Defense should actually be really good. The front 4 will take a step back losing Brown and Davidson, but there is a wealth of talent there. I don't see any superstar power but everybody is solid. If one of either Big Kat, TD Moultry, or Derick Hall can take that next step as an edge rusher...look out.
The LB corp is the best unit on the roster. Britt is a headhunter, Pappoe is a freak, and Zacoby McClain is a heat seeking missile. Have a lot of talented young guys battling for the 4th LB in the roation.
Secondary is replacing 4 starters, but I honestly think they take a step forward. McCreary played a ton last year and will be a lockdown Corner. Jaylon SImpson will be on the other side and have heard nothing but good things. Of course there will be growing pains. The safeties are Sherwood and SMoke Monday who have played alot over the past 2 years. I think all and all this group is more athletic and talented than the ones who departed.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:59 pm to diddlydawg7
Diddly, do you now finally attend UGA?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:59 pm to CreamDaddy
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It may be that Auburn's run game was inconsistent but if Georgia is your only data point you're not to be listened to.
vs. Florida, 3.6 yards per rush
vs. LSU, 4.4 yards per rush
vs. Georgia, 2.3 yards per rush
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the 5.3 yards per rush vs. Alabama, but also Alabama's defense was not that great last year.
ETA: I am not saying that Auburn's run game will be bad this year, I am just trying to point out that it limited Auburn in big games last year, and improvement will be key for Bo Nix being a more efficient passer this week against Kentucky and beyond.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:01 am
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:09 am to TeddyWestside
Auburn’s leading rusher the past two seasons transferred to a FCS school that’s not even playing football this season. And Auburn fans were happy about it.
Kind of sums up the running game last year. It was mostly adequate but, at times, awful. And it had to do with everything from talent at the position, to OL, and the offense as a whole.
It’s why I’d list it above more obvious question marks for this 2020 Auburn team
Kind of sums up the running game last year. It was mostly adequate but, at times, awful. And it had to do with everything from talent at the position, to OL, and the offense as a whole.
It’s why I’d list it above more obvious question marks for this 2020 Auburn team
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:54 am to diddlydawg7
Don't discount Auburns linebackers. The scouting reports I've read credit them as among the best in the SEC. Will be crucial for Kentuckys line to try to get down field on them on running plays.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:30 am to LouisvilleKat
The Cats stand a good chance if they play with discipline. Not a terribly interesting take but it’s the nature of the team and the challenge.
Unless Terry presses coming back or carries a lot of rust I don’t see it being a problem for the offense. There’s a lot of experience there and it’s what they do.
Defensively I think it comes down to not letting them fool you. Don’t bite on gimmicks. They have great receivers but a quality secondary should compete.
Maybe a couple big plays from receivers and a turnover or two but all in all, I just don’t think anyone needs to do anything fancy. Play soundly, play hard and they’ll give themselves a chance.
Unless Terry presses coming back or carries a lot of rust I don’t see it being a problem for the offense. There’s a lot of experience there and it’s what they do.
Defensively I think it comes down to not letting them fool you. Don’t bite on gimmicks. They have great receivers but a quality secondary should compete.
Maybe a couple big plays from receivers and a turnover or two but all in all, I just don’t think anyone needs to do anything fancy. Play soundly, play hard and they’ll give themselves a chance.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:13 am to OleManDixon
Kentucky when healthy has been pretty good the last few years on the los. If they win it’s because They punch au in the mouth on both sides of the los where au might be weaker this year than they have been recently. If they do that they’ll have a chance to win a tight game.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:28 am to slayerxing
The key will be for Kentucky’s o-line to get up to the second level and get blocks on Britt, Tutt, etc. The Cats did not do that against Tennessee last year and their linebacker Daniel Bituli made 20 tackles, the last on the goal line sealing the win for them.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 5:06 am to diddlydawg7
Cant wait to watch
Posted on 9/25/20 at 5:47 am to diddlydawg7
Crazy stat:
UK offense has scored the most rushing TDs in the last 2 years (62)
Auburn defense has allowed the least rushing TDs in the last 2 years (19)
UK offense has scored the most rushing TDs in the last 2 years (62)
Auburn defense has allowed the least rushing TDs in the last 2 years (19)
Posted on 9/25/20 at 5:50 am to diddlydawg7
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BUCK- Derick Hall (Sophomore) (13 tackles last year)
Remember this name diddly
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