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Seeing a lot of talk around the web about 2018 Clemson having the best defense ever.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:43 pm
Especially the defensive front.
Why?
My response to that argument is: 2011 LSU and Alabama.
Two teams that averaged 35 points a game only had 1 TD against each other. And it was in the 8th quarter plus an OT sandwiched in there of playing each other.
How is Clemson's 2018 defense considered better than those two?
Why?
My response to that argument is: 2011 LSU and Alabama.
Two teams that averaged 35 points a game only had 1 TD against each other. And it was in the 8th quarter plus an OT sandwiched in there of playing each other.
How is Clemson's 2018 defense considered better than those two?
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Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:44 pm to magildachunks
Stop hanging out on Clemson board.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:47 pm to magildachunks
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How is Clemson's 2018 defense considered better than those two?
Who is making these comparisons?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:48 pm to magildachunks
Based on raw stats you don't get much better in the modern era than 1986 Oklahoma and 2011 Alabama. That '11 defense allowed less than 184 yards and just over 8 points per game. They could have potentially had five shutouts that year. Kent State only scored thanks to an interception return to the 1-yard line; Mississippi State only scored because of a kick return into the red zone; Auburn only scored because they recovered a fumble in the end zone and returned a kickoff all the way for a touchdown.
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:51 pm to magildachunks
2018 Clemson D will be forgotten in 20 years.
Joey Burrow and LSU 2019 will live forever.
Joey Burrow and LSU 2019 will live forever.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:53 pm to magildachunks
The 2016 Alabama defense was the best that has ever or will ever be assembled.
10 of 11 starters drafted in the first 3 rounds. The lowest draft choice was Pro-Bowler Eddie Jackson, who was selected in the 4th round. 6 were 1st round draft picks. 8 are currently starting in the NFL.
10 of 11 starters drafted in the first 3 rounds. The lowest draft choice was Pro-Bowler Eddie Jackson, who was selected in the 4th round. 6 were 1st round draft picks. 8 are currently starting in the NFL.
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:53 pm to magildachunks
quote:I’ve literally never seen that posted on here.
Seeing a lot of talk around the web about 2018 Clemson having the best defense ever
That was one of the best defensive lines ever though. 3 first rounders and 1 4th rounder. They were a wrecking crew and completely neutralized one of the most explosive offenses in NCAA history.
quote:I don’t think they are but the argument is simple- 2011 LSU and Alabama never neutralized an offense at the caliber of 2018 Alabama.
How is Clemson's 2018 defense considered better than those two?
You have to realize how good that Alabama team was. We’re taking 15 guys that played in that offense that will play in the NFL and several at an extremely high level like Jaylen Waddle, Tua, Josh Jacobs, Jonah Williams, Alex Leatherwood, Jedrick Willis, Irv Smith, Jerry Jeuedy, Henry Ruggs, Damien Harris, Najee Harris and Devonta Smith.
If Alabama finishes the job and beats Clemson then they’re considered a top 5 team of all time. Now they’ll be forgotten in 20 years.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:53 pm to geauxbrown
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Joey Burrow and LSU 2019 will live forever
I agree, but has nothing to do with my topic.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:55 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:Lol no. You don’t get ran up and down the field by Auburn and get to be called the greatest. Also true freshman Jake Fromm was lighting that defense up. I’m pretty sure Dak had a good day against that team too.
The 2017 Alabama defense was the best that has ever or will ever be assembled.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:55 pm to Solo Cam
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2011 LSU and Alabama never neutralized an offense at the caliber of 2018 Alabama.
Go look at LSU's schedule that year.
Oregon and West Virginia were pretty good offenses at that time.
And most of their points came against LSU backups
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:56 pm to magildachunks
quote:I sat in the stands for every single game that year except the natty. Thanks I don’t need to look it up.
Go look at LSU's schedule that year.
quote:Not in the same stratosphere as 2018 Bama.
Oregon and West Virginia were pretty good offenses at that time.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:57 pm to magildachunks
Well it did butt frick a very good Bama Offense.
The defensive front was pretty fricking good.
3 first rounders and a 3rd.
LSU 2011 had 2 first rounders and 2 3rd rounders.
LSU 2011 have far and away a better Secondary.
I cant Remember which assortment of 5 stars were on that Bama Teamz
The defensive front was pretty fricking good.
3 first rounders and a 3rd.
LSU 2011 had 2 first rounders and 2 3rd rounders.
LSU 2011 have far and away a better Secondary.
I cant Remember which assortment of 5 stars were on that Bama Teamz
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:57 pm to Solo Cam
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Lol no. You don’t get ran up and down the field by Auburn and get to be called the greatest. Also true freshman Jake Fromm was lighting that defense up. I’m pretty sure Dak had a good day against that team too.
Sorry, that was a typo. It was the 2016 defense. Everything else stands.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:57 pm to Solo Cam
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pretty sure Dak had a good day against that team too
Well yeah.
The Cowboys aren't great that year, but still better than a college team.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:58 pm to Solo Cam
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I don’t think they are but the argument is simple- 2011 LSU and Alabama never neutralized an offense at the caliber of 2018 Alabama.
That was an outstanding game for them but they weren't quite as dominant over the course of the entire season as 2011 Bama.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:58 pm to Solo Cam
quote:Maybe not, but that WV offense was pretty damn legit that year. Dropped 70 on Steele's D at Clemson. LSU also decimated Oregon's offense that year.
2011 LSU and Alabama never neutralized an offense at the caliber of 2018 Alabama
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Sorry, that was a typo. It was the 2016 defense. Everything else stands.
Dak was still with the cowboys then.
Your football iq is taking a huge hit in this thread.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:03 pm to magildachunks
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Dak was still with the cowboys then.
Your football iq is taking a huge hit in this thread.
What does Dak have to do with the topic of this thread? Is this thread about the greatest defense of all time or not?
Because 2016 Bama is the answer by a wide margin.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:15 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Is this thread about the greatest defense of all time or not?
Because 2016 Bama is the answer by a wide margin.
Based on what exactly because the stats don't bear this out at all.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:17 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Because 2016 Bama is the answer by a wide margin.
The team Deshaun Watson took to the woodshed?
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