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re: SEC's Program Success Index
Posted on 3/15/12 at 2:48 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Posted on 3/15/12 at 2:48 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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The only womens sports I might consider would be cheerleading and pageants.
UK's cheerleading would bump us up the list by quite a few.
But thank you for your selective analysis.
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:14 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
All these posts trying to convince people that anyone except the participants and their parents give a shite about any college sport besides football, basketball, and baseball are humorous.
If there were some sort of weighting scale that measured importance, interest, money, etc of college sports it would be something like this:
Football - 50%
Basketball - 30%
Baseball - 19%
Everything else - 1%
For some schools the top three could be shuffled to some extent.
If there were some sort of weighting scale that measured importance, interest, money, etc of college sports it would be something like this:
Football - 50%
Basketball - 30%
Baseball - 19%
Everything else - 1%
For some schools the top three could be shuffled to some extent.
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:17 pm to Rex Manning
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Take bass fishing out you moron
ADD DISC GOLF!!!!!!
Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:21 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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eventh, Alabama only cares about football, if they had to do it clean they'd be Miss. St. Bama is the most overrated program in college sports.
This is true. The only thing they're really good at is football
Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
And yet, Kentucky's Womens Teams Ranked In:
Vollyball
Soccer
Basketball
Gymnastics
And we did just get NCAA National Runner Up in Rifle.
So, this program success indsex is shite due to title 9 forces programs to shift funding.
Vollyball
Soccer
Basketball
Gymnastics
And we did just get NCAA National Runner Up in Rifle.
So, this program success indsex is shite due to title 9 forces programs to shift funding.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:40 pm to WildcatMike
Well this thread already looks to be discredited enough without me piling on.
But you know you mad when you go and make a spreadsheet about every schools Bass Fishing program.
But you know you mad when you go and make a spreadsheet about every schools Bass Fishing program.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 5:33 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Seventh, Alabama only cares about football, if they had to do it clean they'd be Miss. St. Bama is the most overrated program in college sports.
:rotflmao:
Posted on 3/15/12 at 7:50 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
UF #1 
Posted on 3/15/12 at 7:53 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
I am not reading this entire thread but Baseball America poll should be used for baseball rankings
Posted on 3/15/12 at 7:54 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
So we suck arse according to you...but at the same time we're the only team that is ranked in both of the Men's Revenue sports. Interesting
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 3/15/12 at 7:56 pm to FightTigers
We play for championships here in the SEC.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:01 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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If you'd like to do a women's index feel free, but I don't think women's sports have a role because if not for title IX most of them would club level only.
Well you said ALL sports is why I mentioned it. I just seems like a weird collection.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:57 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Please forgive us For caring about the only sport that matters. Keep on hatin'
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:27 pm to attheua
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lol at having 3 types of track on the list, who gives a shite
This is the funniest part.
Who knew track and f'n field carries more weight in program success than football and basketball combined?!?!
Posted on 3/16/12 at 12:14 am to elposter
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All these posts trying to convince people that anyone except the participants and their parents give a shite about any college sport besides football, basketball, and baseball are humorous.
Agreed. Let's come up with a weighted scale. We'll come to a consensus and I'll recalculate accordingly, and it'll trump Sagarin in all ways.
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If there were some sort of weighting scale that measured importance, interest, money, etc of college sports it would be something like this:
Football - 50%
Basketball - 30%
Baseball - 19%
Everything else - 1%
Disagree. Let's start the conversation on how to weight the sports by respective importance. continued on next post.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 12:47 am to CtotheVrzrbck
My suggestion would be:
Football - 55%
Basketball - 35%
Baseball - 9%
Other - 1%
This is still being overly favorable to college baseball, but it is the SEC. I didn't use any kind of scientific approach to come up with this other than gut feel.
Football - 55%
Basketball - 35%
Baseball - 9%
Other - 1%
This is still being overly favorable to college baseball, but it is the SEC. I didn't use any kind of scientific approach to come up with this other than gut feel.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 1:00 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Ok, I admit there are some flaws. I did say in the OP that it was a simple formula of taking the SEC sponsored sports and bass fishing to get an even 10 and assigning points based on final rankings, and finishing place in championship meets.
First thing is to determine the criteria. A couple things will not be in question. 1) Men's sports only. To paraphrase Coach Gundy "This is Division 1 Sports!", if you want to be PC do it in the Ivy league or Europe. 2) Only conference sponsored/recognized sports. Sorry air rifle fans, maybe if the sport shot live rounds and hollow points it'd be cooler. I am surprised the NCAA doesn't recognize archery though. 3) Must play D1 football to be in the conversation for the forthcoming national index rankings.
OK, so then we need to set parameters on the elements of the weighting criteria. What is most important? Participation throughout the American population, spectator sport and attendance, revenue producing vs non revenue producing. Then there are admin elements such as coaching longevity and turnover, APR, NCAA probation, investigations, and arrests and scandals. There are business and financial considerations too such as profitability, fundraising, licensing revenue and merch sales, game attendance, etc.
Last but not least on the field performance, should there be a bonus for winning conference and national championships? Pro draft pick bonuses? Blowout penalty? Award winner bonus? Top 10 in team stats bonus and a Bottom 10 penalty?
I think we should identify what is important in the elements of the weighting criteria then we can start to separate the sports by relevance to the index.
And go.
First thing is to determine the criteria. A couple things will not be in question. 1) Men's sports only. To paraphrase Coach Gundy "This is Division 1 Sports!", if you want to be PC do it in the Ivy league or Europe. 2) Only conference sponsored/recognized sports. Sorry air rifle fans, maybe if the sport shot live rounds and hollow points it'd be cooler. I am surprised the NCAA doesn't recognize archery though. 3) Must play D1 football to be in the conversation for the forthcoming national index rankings.
OK, so then we need to set parameters on the elements of the weighting criteria. What is most important? Participation throughout the American population, spectator sport and attendance, revenue producing vs non revenue producing. Then there are admin elements such as coaching longevity and turnover, APR, NCAA probation, investigations, and arrests and scandals. There are business and financial considerations too such as profitability, fundraising, licensing revenue and merch sales, game attendance, etc.
Last but not least on the field performance, should there be a bonus for winning conference and national championships? Pro draft pick bonuses? Blowout penalty? Award winner bonus? Top 10 in team stats bonus and a Bottom 10 penalty?
I think we should identify what is important in the elements of the weighting criteria then we can start to separate the sports by relevance to the index.
And go.
This post was edited on 3/16/12 at 1:03 am
Posted on 3/16/12 at 1:07 am to CtotheVrzrbck
I think we can identify the favorite team of the OP when we see that track is given THREE different categories. Hmmmm... intredasting
This post was edited on 3/16/12 at 1:12 am
Posted on 3/16/12 at 1:09 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Oh, and Bama is the only school in the SEC that ranks top 3 in the conference in overall wins in all 3 major sports: football, basketball, and baseball.
But yeah, we're so overrated.
But yeah, we're so overrated.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 1:10 am to Tuscaloosa
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I think we can identify the favorite team of the OP when we see that track is given THREE different categories. Which team does that benefit the most? Hmmmm... intredasting
probably because there is indoor outdoor and cross country. all three award a national championship every year and keep separate rankings.
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