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re: SECr CFB history lesson: Arkansas has never won a National Title in football
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:01 am to 14&Counting
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:01 am to 14&Counting
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That is changing your tune.....we were told by the Rant that Bama doesn't really have 15 titles.
well, you don't, but 64/65 are legit.
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:02 am to Draconian Sanctions
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both national perception and facts are on my side.
This sentence is 0-2.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
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both national perception and facts are on my side.
What Jerry Jones and the people who live in Arkansas say about it doesn't matter.
But the fact are not on your side, go to the NCAA website
At best you can say its shared
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
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both national perception and facts are on my side.
What Jerry Jones and the people who live in Arkansas say about it doesn't matter.
You know, I almost hope we lose to y'all. I don't know if I can stand another year of LSU fans sobbing away on here. Its so damn depressing. Yes, we slapped you around last year and shut down your all everything RB. It happens. If you aren't over it by now then seek therapy.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
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And neither has Ole Miss. But for some reason, their claims aren't scrutinized.
yes, they are
Maybe by LSU fans, but not much else.
IMO, the standard should be clear. AP or Coaches' poll back for the time they've been in existence. Before that, it's murky, but some polls are more legitimate and some situations more clear than others. I can see why some people want to reject anything before the AP began, but that isn't really accurate or fair to teams before 1936.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:07 am to sugatowng
Lol
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:08 am to Draconian Sanctions
True. 1941 is not legit. I claim 14.
1966 Bama was screwed (and arguably two other seasons), but that's just college football. Many programs have teams that got screwed, that doesn't mean they can claim to be national champions just because they "believe" they should have been.
1966 Bama was screwed (and arguably two other seasons), but that's just college football. Many programs have teams that got screwed, that doesn't mean they can claim to be national champions just because they "believe" they should have been.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:10 am to rockiee
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But the fact are not on your side, go to the NCAA website
The NCAA is not, and never has been, in the business of sanctioning a national champion for football. What they list on their website is at best politically motivated and at worst lazy.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:12 am to Crimson Legend
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True. 1941 is not legit. I claim 14.
pre-poll era titles aren't "real" either. But that's for another thread.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:15 am to swinetime
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seems to be trying too hard
college football history is a big interest of mine
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the fear of a repeat of last year is real
Not scared at all, I've already said in other threads I think Arky has a great shot to win Saturday
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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pre-poll era titles aren't "real" either. But that's for another thread.
One could make the argument that every title isn't "real". That said, I won't disregard the accomplishments of teams past just because the AP didn't get up off their butts until the 30s.
That said, there's a reason I will also say "poll titles", depending on the debate.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
Draconian Sanctions doing the Lord's work! 
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:12 am to Crimson Legend
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True. 1941 is not legit. I claim 14.
That's right. 1941 NC belongs to State.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
Lame. Their 1964 title is legit.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:16 am to I-59 Tiger
Bama beats that arse corndogs start carrying their water. 
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:20 am to BradPitt
The summer of 1987, Alabama honored the 1925-26, 1930, 1934 teams as national champions based on the retroactive selections they received, adding their total from 6 to 10 at the time. I'm all about honoring history but to always boast "15" is a bit much. That said, if Alabama fans who will claim 15, then Arkansas can lay claim to 1964 and 1965 despite not winning AP or UPI. I don't and will never recognize Arkansas as winning a national title in the 60s but their fans can do as they please since Bama does.
Because of the history of the state of Mississippi being anti-black, that may be a big reason why Ole Miss was denied national titles in 1960 and 1962. And there was no anti-south sentiments then. Because Auburn won in 1957, LSU in 1958, Alabama in 1961.
Tennessee fans can easily make claims to titles 1938-1940 and 1950 based on Bama methods.
Because of the history of the state of Mississippi being anti-black, that may be a big reason why Ole Miss was denied national titles in 1960 and 1962. And there was no anti-south sentiments then. Because Auburn won in 1957, LSU in 1958, Alabama in 1961.
Tennessee fans can easily make claims to titles 1938-1940 and 1950 based on Bama methods.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:39 am to I-59 Tiger
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Their 1964 title is legit.
wrong. See my OP for proof.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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They failed, losing 14-7 to big bro, and to this day Arkansas still has not won a national title in football.
In more recent history...
Arkansas' highest ranked team since 1977 got blasted by big bro in embarrassing fashion.
As a result, Petrino had to find consolation the best way an Arkansas man knows how.
Bert already has someone to hop on so hopefully he has a better plan for dealing with the aftermath of another devastating loss at the hands of big bro.
4th and 25 won't save them.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:41 pm to hawgfaninc
No one recognizes that shite but hicks from the sticks.
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