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re: SECCG Scenarios
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:27 am to lowhound
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:27 am to lowhound
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If LSU and A&M both win out, they will meet in a rematch in the SECCG and UGA & Texas will both be at home.
Is this true?
If A&M loses to Texas and finishes 7-1 along with UGA, LSU and Texas they'd be 1-1 against those tied.
UGA would be 1-0 against the 4 teams tied at 7-1.
LSU would be 0-1.
Texas would be 1-1.
UGA would be in.
Then amongst the remaining 3 Texas would be 1-0 so they'd get the #2 spot, right?
Don't they use record against the teams tied as part of the tiebreaker?
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 10:29 am
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:31 am to nicholastiger
While playing tu and beating them twice in the same season would be incredibly satisfying, I don’t think the opportunity to beat them a second time will present itself. They are going to lose at least one more before they come to Kyle.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:50 am to TexAg89
Bama will win out that’s a lock but what else needs to happen if far fetched to get Bama in the glorious sexy
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:38 am to UGA40
quote:No.
Man,
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:38 am to TheDeathValley
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It is wild that we have a potential for a 4 way SEC tie (7-1) with Texas, Texas A&M, UGA/Tenn, and LSU.
& divisions would determine who is chosen (at least UGA/Tenn.).
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:39 am to RT1941
quote:Ya, I’m not worried about that
UGA has Gators/Rebels/Vols on the slate with only 1 of those in Athens.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:41 am to DawginSC
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Don't they use record against the teams tied as part of the tiebreaker?
I believe H2H counts, but can’t remember what it is if they DON’T play during the season.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:44 am to RollingwiththeTide62
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Bama will win out that’s a lock but what else needs to happen if far fetched to get Bama in the glorious sexy
Assuming Alabama beats LSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn, they need:
This week:
Florida over Georgia*
South Carolina over Texas A&M
Next week
Ole Miss over Georgia
Nov 16th
Georgia over Tennessee*
Nov 23rd:
Auburn over Texas A&M
Nov 30:
Texas A&M over Texas
This creates a 7 way tie for the SEC at 6-2 (Bama, LSU, UGA, Texas A&M, Texas, & Ole Miss).
They would play LSU if they beat Florida, Vandy, and Oklahoma. They would play UGA if LSU lost any of those game.
* They can also get there with a 5 way tie if Tennessee beats Georgia and Vandy beats Tennessee. If Georgia beats Florida, Bama absolutely needs Tennessee to beat UGA. Then, if Tennessee beats Vandy, they would get a rematch with Alabama. If not, Bama would play Georgia.
GEAUX TIGERS!
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:46 am to terriblegreen
quote:Thank you for at least addressing my initial question. Appears you’re the only person with reading comprehension skills and to have done so.
There's too many games left to say.
Your dismissal notwithstanding, it is possible to predict the various outcomes.
I’m looking for the outcome where neither A&M nor Texas meet UGA in the SECCG. Seems that only LSU and Bama in that scenario remain possibilities.
For LSU to make it, they obviously need to win out, and need A&M to lose twice I believe. What else?
For Bama to make it, all of the above needs to happen, plus Bama needs to beat LSU. And what else would need to happen to prevent anyone else from winning a tiebreaker of 2-loss teams?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:47 am to Thorny
quote:. Very helpful, thank you!
Thorny
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:51 am to Thorny
I’ve always been impressed with people who can look at schedules & tell you the paths for things to happen.
I used to go to a high school site where 1 poster would tell you weekly what it took for each school to win region (down to who beats who & by how many points). I remember him saying his mom was a math teacher, so stuff like that was easy for him to see.
I used to go to a high school site where 1 poster would tell you weekly what it took for each school to win region (down to who beats who & by how many points). I remember him saying his mom was a math teacher, so stuff like that was easy for him to see.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:56 am to nicholastiger
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would love to see A&M play Texas and then turn around and play again
May very well happen.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:00 pm to Demosthenian
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For LSU to make it, they obviously need to win out, and need A&M to lose twice I believe. What else?
LSU needs to win out yes. But nothing else is automatic.
If both LSU and A&M win out, they play again in Atlanta. Simple.
If LSU wins out and A&M loses to Texas, the Tigers have a conference win percentage advantage over Texas & UGA in most likely 4-way tie scenarios (but, not all).
If LSU wins out and A&M loses to Texas and Auburn, the Tigers are left out with Texas & UGA rematching. If LSU wins out and A&M loses to South Carolina and Texas, the Tigers would play either UGA (if they beat Tennessee) or Texas (if UGA loses to Tennessee).
Clear as mud.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:03 pm to southernboisb
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I’ve always been impressed with people who can look at schedules & tell you the paths for things to happen.
I'm just throwing scenarios into the gonkulator.
mred's 2024 SEC FB Standings Tiebreaker calculator
My son, however, has the abilities you are praising.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:05 pm to Thorny
quote:Ho-K! So let’s go Bayou Bengals, Plainsmen, and Gamecocks!
If LSU wins out and A&M loses to Texas and Auburn, the Tigers are left out with Texas & UGA rematching. If LSU wins out and A&M loses to South Carolina and Texas, the Tigers would play either UGA
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:06 pm to Thorny
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Assuming Alabama beats LSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn, they need:
This week:
Florida over Georgia*
South Carolina over Texas A&M
Next week
Ole Miss over Georgia
Nov 16th
Georgia over Tennessee*
Nov 23rd:
Auburn over Texas A&M
Nov 30:
Texas A&M over Texas
This creates a 7 way tie for the SEC at 6-2 (Bama, LSU, UGA, Texas A&M, Texas, & Ole Miss).
They would play LSU if they beat Florida, Vandy, and Oklahoma. They would play UGA if LSU lost any of those game.
* They can also get there with a 5 way tie if Tennessee beats Georgia and Vandy beats Tennessee. If Georgia beats Florida, Bama absolutely needs Tennessee to beat UGA. Then, if Tennessee beats Vandy, they would get a rematch with Alabama. If not, Bama would play Georgia.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:08 pm to Thorny
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My son, however, has the abilities you are praising.
In that he instantly sees what paths could/need to happen?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:01 pm to southernboisb
Yeah. He usually maps out the scenarios accurately by Sunday morning.
He got his start by figuring out in 2007 that after the loss to Arkansas, all LSU needed was for Pitt to beat West Virginia and for Oklahoma to beat Oklahoma to beat Mizzou. He was 10 years old.
He's not high on LSU getting an at-large bid at 10-2 and no SECCG win. He doesn't think enough Big Ten teams will lose the games they need to.
GEAUX TIGERS!
He got his start by figuring out in 2007 that after the loss to Arkansas, all LSU needed was for Pitt to beat West Virginia and for Oklahoma to beat Oklahoma to beat Mizzou. He was 10 years old.
He's not high on LSU getting an at-large bid at 10-2 and no SECCG win. He doesn't think enough Big Ten teams will lose the games they need to.
GEAUX TIGERS!
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:08 pm to Bamafig
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There’s no benefit to playing in or winning the game. You still have to play just as many games to be national champion.
Yeah. The loser of the SECCG game will probably be much tougher than the Big 12 runner-up or Mountain West Champ.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 1:22 pm to Thorny
quote:We got the lowest probability part of this parlay accomplished.
If LSU wins out and A&M loses to Texas and Auburn, the Tigers are left out with Texas & UGA rematching. If LSU wins out and A&M loses to South Carolina and Texas, the Tigers would play either UGA
Now, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but now I’m cheering for Texas to beat A&M if it ensures LSU meets UGA in the SECCG. Tigers: I know you’re going to win out, right?
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