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SEC vs Big 12 Which is better this year?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:30 pm
IMHO SEC had a very down year. QB weakness across the board. I still think FL or The Gumps will be whomever comes out of the Big 12 (OU) because the D wins championships and OSU put 41 on OU's D.
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Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:33 pm to GRRRRRTiger
This is not even a debate. The SEC is at best #3, and it is more like a 3 way tie at #3.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:36 pm to MJRuffalo
I know eveyone has been talking about a down year for the SEC, we have the #1 and #2 teams in the country. I hate to say the Pac-10 is a distant 3rd behind Big 12 and SEC. I give the SLIGHT edge to Big 12 this year, because of UT, OU and TTU.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:39 pm to GRRRRRTiger
Big 12 and it is not even close in terms of overall strength of the conference. Florida is probably the best team in the nation and BAMA is top five for sure.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:42 pm to WSB33
I agree in overall strength SEC is an easy #1
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:43 pm to GRRRRRTiger
No doubt Big 12 is the best this year. SEC is behind them.
Also no doubt the Pac 10 still sux.
Also no doubt the Pac 10 still sux.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:46 pm to GRRRRRTiger
ok, well, the big 12 has no defense whatsoever. Those teams can hang an upward of 40+ points on each other. Oklahoma State's defense last night should not have been on the field. They just let Bradford throw and put on a clinic out there.
Sec offense may not put up alot of points, but thats because we have strong defenses. I hope we play Texas Tech in the bowl game so I can see if our defense holds my theory true.
Sec offense may not put up alot of points, but thats because we have strong defenses. I hope we play Texas Tech in the bowl game so I can see if our defense holds my theory true.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:50 pm to GRRRRRTiger
Take a look at the schedules. Texas Tech's was a complete joke before playing TX in week 9. They caught TX down during their toughest stretch, and almost lost to BAYLOR yesterday. Missouri has been exposed and just lost to KANSAS. Oklahoma's schedule wasn't that tough and neither was OSU's. Those soft schedules are what led to the Big 3 - TX, OU, and TT. I'm not saying that those 3 teams aren't good, but are they THAT good? Are they better than FL, AL, and GA? I don't think so.
This post was edited on 11/30/08 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:55 pm to GM4UA
the 3rd best maybe the mountain west they been beating up on that powerful pac 10
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:55 pm to MJRuffalo
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The SEC is at best #3, and it is more like a 3 way tie at #3.
Oregon State had a chance to win the Pac-10. That's all that needs to be said. Not too mention y'all have two of the worst teams in D-1 football in Washington and Washington State.
The Trojans only have to get up 2 or 3 times a year and they can't even do that anymore.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:56 pm to GM4UA
the big 12 is by far the toughest conf. don't tell me about the weak arse schedule of ala, and fla.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 5:11 pm to wolfgang
Bama caught some breaks by having some traditionally good teams having some down years, no denying that. Same with FL. But, the same goes for the Big 12. Also, a lot can be said about defenses when those teams continually are hanging 50+ points on each other.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 5:42 pm to GM4UA
Here are some facts for you.
The SEC went 4-6 vs the ACC. The 2 top SEC teams went 3-0 vs the ACC, while the rest of the SEC went 1-6. The top 2 ACC teams did not participate..
If you take the top 8 conferences the 6 bcs and the MWC, adn the WAC. The SEC does not have a winning record vs any of them.
The SEC went 4-6 vs the ACC. The 2 top SEC teams went 3-0 vs the ACC, while the rest of the SEC went 1-6. The top 2 ACC teams did not participate..
If you take the top 8 conferences the 6 bcs and the MWC, adn the WAC. The SEC does not have a winning record vs any of them.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 5:49 pm to MJRuffalo
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The SEC went 4-6 vs the ACC. The 2 top SEC teams went 3-0 vs the ACC, while the rest of the SEC went 1-6. The top 2 ACC teams did not participate..
2 of those losses were via Vandy and 1 was to an MSU team who wouldnt have a winning record int he OVC. While SC was 1-1.
I guess the top tier ACC teams were busy losing to ECU huh?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 5:52 pm to Adiossuck
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Adiossuck
Do you still think that S.Carolina is better than Ole Miss?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 5:58 pm to inelishaitrust
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Do you still think that S.Carolina is better than Ole Miss?
Im not sure you tell me..
and that same Smelley who threw 4 INTs and put us out of the Clemson game before we had a chance.. torched the Ole Miss defense.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 6:03 pm to Adiossuck
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2 of those losses were via Vandy
You do know that Vandy is the #5 SEC team this season. That should tell you all you need to know about the strength of your conference this season.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 6:05 pm to Calculus Entropy
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I agree in overall strength SEC is an easy #1
Posted on 11/30/08 at 6:05 pm to MJRuffalo
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You do know that Vandy is the #5 SEC team this season. That should tell you all you need to know about the strength of your conference this season.
Whip dee do. They got a few lucky breaks in the turnover margin earlier in the season. You do know the PAC-10 has the only winless BCS team right?
Seriously did you honestly ever think, even if OSU would have beaten Oregon that the Beavers were the best team in the PAC-10? (which shows the weakness of the PAC-10) Nah I doubt it. Same reason I dont believe Vandy is really the #5 team in the SEC.
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Posted on 11/30/08 at 6:09 pm to Adiossuck
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and that same Smelley who threw 4 INTs and put us out of the Clemson game before we had a chance.. torched the Ole Miss defense.
I don't think you've gotten the point. Ole miss has gotten better as the year has gone on, and South Carolina has fallen apart like they always do.
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