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re: SEC States Rankings using : Health, Education, Economy, Population Growth
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:42 pm to Grovewater
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:42 pm to Grovewater
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By that logic, Texas would be leading every category by a mile if you removed all the illegal Mexicans.
You're comparing Mississippi residents to illegals?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:44 pm to Numberwang
2012 GDP Per Capita
1. Texas (46,498)
2. Louisiana (43,181)
3. Georgia (37,702)
4. Tennessee (37,254)
5. Missouri (36,815)
6. Florida (34,802)
7. Kentucky (33,519)
8. Alabama (32,615)
9. South Carolina (31,881)
10. Arkansas (31,837)
11. Mississippi (28,944)
1. Texas (46,498)
2. Louisiana (43,181)
3. Georgia (37,702)
4. Tennessee (37,254)
5. Missouri (36,815)
6. Florida (34,802)
7. Kentucky (33,519)
8. Alabama (32,615)
9. South Carolina (31,881)
10. Arkansas (31,837)
11. Mississippi (28,944)
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:47 pm to texag7
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You're comparing Mississippi residents to illegals?
I prefer illegals, at least they work
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I prefer illegals, at least they work

Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2012 GDP Per Capita
1. Texas (46,498)
2. Louisiana (43,181)
3. Georgia (37,702)
4. Tennessee (37,254)
5. Missouri (36,815)
6. Florida (34,802)
7. Kentucky (33,519)
8. Alabama (32,615)
9. South Carolina (31,881)
10. Arkansas (31,837)
11. Mississippi (28,944)
That probably moves Louisiana up and Florida down in your original rankings.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:53 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I prefer illegals, at least they work
Strange...every time I go to the delta in Arkansas and Mississippi I see nothing but blacks working. Doing road work, law enforcement, fire fighters, construction, working in stores, teaching, gas stations, etc. Where does the myth come from that people don't work...maybe the wages are waaaay low unless they work for free.

It's more to do with low wages if you really want to be honest. You can't sit there and say NONE of those people in the delta work but when you go to that area that's all you see working.

When wages in an area avg under $8/hr and you can do the same job in other states for $12-15/hr then you'll qualify for Govt benefits more in that area compared to someone in another state doing the same job that puts them over the poverty line.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:53 pm to Numberwang
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That probably moves Louisiana up and Florida down in your original rankings.
Probably
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:56 pm to bayou2003
Mississippians, in general, suck at everything. Yet they strut around tRant like they're hot shite. They've gotten too big for their confederate britches and are long overdue to be brought down a peg.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:57 pm to bayou2003
Illegals can get by on less $ because their citizen children qualify for benefits, no matter how much their illegal parents are making because it isn't reported, or is reported under a false SS#.
Black people (U.S. citizens) stop qualifying for welfare when they work. Illegals don't.
Black people (U.S. citizens) stop qualifying for welfare when they work. Illegals don't.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:04 pm to Numberwang
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Black people (U.S. citizens) stop qualifying for welfare when they work. Illegals don't.
But you can still get food stamps, Medicaid when you have low paying jobs. In a lot of rural areas the jobs don't pay as much so they are under that poverty line.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:07 pm to Numberwang
Kentucky has a small black population due to the simole fact that if you made it this far as a slave, you hauled arse across the Ohio River in to Indiana or Ohio. You don't stop before you reach the finish line in a 10K do you?
So when we rank low on these lists, it's Eastern Kentucky that usually pulls us down. Ridiculous poverty in the mountains. Plus we like to smoke, drink, and eat good. No shame in that.
So when we rank low on these lists, it's Eastern Kentucky that usually pulls us down. Ridiculous poverty in the mountains. Plus we like to smoke, drink, and eat good. No shame in that.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Yet they strut around tRant like they're hot shite.
Yeah, with all the being poor and shite, we don't know how to handle the success we've seen in football and all that SEC welfare money coming in. We'll invest our money wisely and use UT as an example of a negative ROI. With 1.3 million for a recruiting budget, one would think you could win the SEC East every now and then.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:53 pm to mikeb0870
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This guy said an oxymoron. Prestigious Black College. Note there are black colleges that are much,much better than other black colleges but none of them can hold a candle to any state university.
Except for the fact that Howard University has a higher ranked business school than OM, State, Kentucky, or Auburn. A higher ranked education school than Bama, LSU, or State. And a higher ranked law school than OM, A&M, or Kentucky.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:36 pm to UAtide11
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Except for the fact that Howard University has a higher ranked business school than OM, State, Kentucky, or Auburn. A higher ranked education school than Bama, LSU, or State. And a higher ranked law school than OM, A&M, or Kentucky.
BOOM.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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4. South Carolina (5.25)
One of the most underrated places to live in the eastern US.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:59 am to GetCocky11
It really is... Now that I live in Connecticut I understand why people move down south.
I miss the little things about SC. Heck, where I grew people know the mailman by name. He's been delivering our mail for all of my 26 years.
I miss the little things about SC. Heck, where I grew people know the mailman by name. He's been delivering our mail for all of my 26 years.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
Louisiana is not last.
I'll take it.

I'll take it.

Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
I grew up in Alabama and still live here and have always thought the state sucked a fierce dick but thank god for Mississippi to make us look better in nearly everything. Alabama is chock full of dumb fat fricks but apparently Mississippi took that as a gentlemen's challenge.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 1:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Man, you guys are eaten up with this collectivist nonsense these days.
But let's pretend for a minute that averages and overly aggregated data are anything other than useless for meaningful analysis. (Did you know that most people have an above average number of legs?) Let's at least do the meaninglessness analysis correctly.
Just averaging rankings doesn't actually give each metric equal weight. It over-weights metrics where there is less difference between highs and lows.
For example, let's say we make one of the metrics female to male ratios. Number 1 and number 11 would essentially be tied, but it would get the same weight as state product per capita, even if number 1 were 3x number 11.
The right approach would be to normalize the data. Start with a linear normalization where y = (x - MIN)/(MAX - MIN). that would rescale the data for each metric between 0 and 1. As long as there are no extreme outliers (I doubt there are) you can average those or give them weights based on which metrics are more important.
If there are any extreme outliers, those metrics will be underweighted, and you'll need to standardize the data instead. y = (x - mean) / stdev. This will rescale the data to have an average of 0 and a standard deviation of 1.
It won't change the fact that what was going on in Clarksdale had close to zero impact on my quality of life growing up in Pascagoula or that, despite growing up in a working class home and going to shitty elementary and middle schools, I didn't learn any less in game theory or combinatorics at Ole Miss than I world have if I'd been from Connecticut and taken those classes at MIT.
But let's pretend for a minute that averages and overly aggregated data are anything other than useless for meaningful analysis. (Did you know that most people have an above average number of legs?) Let's at least do the meaninglessness analysis correctly.
Just averaging rankings doesn't actually give each metric equal weight. It over-weights metrics where there is less difference between highs and lows.
For example, let's say we make one of the metrics female to male ratios. Number 1 and number 11 would essentially be tied, but it would get the same weight as state product per capita, even if number 1 were 3x number 11.
The right approach would be to normalize the data. Start with a linear normalization where y = (x - MIN)/(MAX - MIN). that would rescale the data for each metric between 0 and 1. As long as there are no extreme outliers (I doubt there are) you can average those or give them weights based on which metrics are more important.
If there are any extreme outliers, those metrics will be underweighted, and you'll need to standardize the data instead. y = (x - mean) / stdev. This will rescale the data to have an average of 0 and a standard deviation of 1.
It won't change the fact that what was going on in Clarksdale had close to zero impact on my quality of life growing up in Pascagoula or that, despite growing up in a working class home and going to shitty elementary and middle schools, I didn't learn any less in game theory or combinatorics at Ole Miss than I world have if I'd been from Connecticut and taken those classes at MIT.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 1:58 pm
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