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re: SEC States Rankings using : Health, Education, Economy, Population Growth

Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39626 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:42 pm to
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By that logic, Texas would be leading every category by a mile if you removed all the illegal Mexicans.



You're comparing Mississippi residents to illegals?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:44 pm to
2012 GDP Per Capita
1. Texas (46,498)
2. Louisiana (43,181)
3. Georgia (37,702)
4. Tennessee (37,254)
5. Missouri (36,815)
6. Florida (34,802)
7. Kentucky (33,519)
8. Alabama (32,615)
9. South Carolina (31,881)
10. Arkansas (31,837)
11. Mississippi (28,944)
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

You're comparing Mississippi residents to illegals?



I prefer illegals, at least they work
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

I prefer illegals, at least they work


Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37309 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

2012 GDP Per Capita
1. Texas (46,498)
2. Louisiana (43,181)
3. Georgia (37,702)
4. Tennessee (37,254)
5. Missouri (36,815)
6. Florida (34,802)
7. Kentucky (33,519)
8. Alabama (32,615)
9. South Carolina (31,881)
10. Arkansas (31,837)
11. Mississippi (28,944)


That probably moves Louisiana up and Florida down in your original rankings.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:53 pm to
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I prefer illegals, at least they work


Strange...every time I go to the delta in Arkansas and Mississippi I see nothing but blacks working. Doing road work, law enforcement, fire fighters, construction, working in stores, teaching, gas stations, etc. Where does the myth come from that people don't work...maybe the wages are waaaay low unless they work for free.

It's more to do with low wages if you really want to be honest. You can't sit there and say NONE of those people in the delta work but when you go to that area that's all you see working.

When wages in an area avg under $8/hr and you can do the same job in other states for $12-15/hr then you'll qualify for Govt benefits more in that area compared to someone in another state doing the same job that puts them over the poverty line.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

That probably moves Louisiana up and Florida down in your original rankings.


Probably
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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70096 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:56 pm to
Mississippians, in general, suck at everything. Yet they strut around tRant like they're hot shite. They've gotten too big for their confederate britches and are long overdue to be brought down a peg.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:57 pm to
Illegals can get by on less $ because their citizen children qualify for benefits, no matter how much their illegal parents are making because it isn't reported, or is reported under a false SS#.

Black people (U.S. citizens) stop qualifying for welfare when they work. Illegals don't.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Black people (U.S. citizens) stop qualifying for welfare when they work. Illegals don't.


But you can still get food stamps, Medicaid when you have low paying jobs. In a lot of rural areas the jobs don't pay as much so they are under that poverty line.

Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18161 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:07 pm to
Kentucky has a small black population due to the simole fact that if you made it this far as a slave, you hauled arse across the Ohio River in to Indiana or Ohio. You don't stop before you reach the finish line in a 10K do you?

So when we rank low on these lists, it's Eastern Kentucky that usually pulls us down. Ridiculous poverty in the mountains. Plus we like to smoke, drink, and eat good. No shame in that.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1726 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:20 pm to
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Yet they strut around tRant like they're hot shite.

Yeah, with all the being poor and shite, we don't know how to handle the success we've seen in football and all that SEC welfare money coming in. We'll invest our money wisely and use UT as an example of a negative ROI. With 1.3 million for a recruiting budget, one would think you could win the SEC East every now and then.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

This guy said an oxymoron. Prestigious Black College. Note there are black colleges that are much,much better than other black colleges but none of them can hold a candle to any state university.


Except for the fact that Howard University has a higher ranked business school than OM, State, Kentucky, or Auburn. A higher ranked education school than Bama, LSU, or State. And a higher ranked law school than OM, A&M, or Kentucky.

Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:36 pm to
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Except for the fact that Howard University has a higher ranked business school than OM, State, Kentucky, or Auburn. A higher ranked education school than Bama, LSU, or State. And a higher ranked law school than OM, A&M, or Kentucky.




BOOM.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53373 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:51 am to
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4. South Carolina (5.25)


One of the most underrated places to live in the eastern US.
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:59 am to
It really is... Now that I live in Connecticut I understand why people move down south.

I miss the little things about SC. Heck, where I grew people know the mailman by name. He's been delivering our mail for all of my 26 years.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30883 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:26 am to
Louisiana is not last.


I'll take it.

Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12264 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:46 am to
I grew up in Alabama and still live here and have always thought the state sucked a fierce dick but thank god for Mississippi to make us look better in nearly everything. Alabama is chock full of dumb fat fricks but apparently Mississippi took that as a gentlemen's challenge.
Posted by beth(beth(omega))
Member since Feb 2013
201 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 1:57 pm to
Man, you guys are eaten up with this collectivist nonsense these days.

But let's pretend for a minute that averages and overly aggregated data are anything other than useless for meaningful analysis. (Did you know that most people have an above average number of legs?) Let's at least do the meaninglessness analysis correctly.

Just averaging rankings doesn't actually give each metric equal weight. It over-weights metrics where there is less difference between highs and lows.

For example, let's say we make one of the metrics female to male ratios. Number 1 and number 11 would essentially be tied, but it would get the same weight as state product per capita, even if number 1 were 3x number 11.

The right approach would be to normalize the data. Start with a linear normalization where y = (x - MIN)/(MAX - MIN). that would rescale the data for each metric between 0 and 1. As long as there are no extreme outliers (I doubt there are) you can average those or give them weights based on which metrics are more important.

If there are any extreme outliers, those metrics will be underweighted, and you'll need to standardize the data instead. y = (x - mean) / stdev. This will rescale the data to have an average of 0 and a standard deviation of 1.

It won't change the fact that what was going on in Clarksdale had close to zero impact on my quality of life growing up in Pascagoula or that, despite growing up in a working class home and going to shitty elementary and middle schools, I didn't learn any less in game theory or combinatorics at Ole Miss than I world have if I'd been from Connecticut and taken those classes at MIT.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 1:58 pm
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