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re: SEC Revenue sharing - Still don't understand it.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:25 pm to tb27688
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:25 pm to tb27688
nobody is saying that.
but I'm not sure you understand just how big it was for teh SECN to have a Texas based school in the fold.
There are 26.9 million people in Texas.
The rest of the SEC states in order
Florida - 19.8 million
Georgia - 10
Tennessee - 6.5
Missouri - 6
Alabama - 4.8
South Carolina - 4.8
Louisiana - 4.6
Kentucky - 4.4
Mississippi - 2.9
Arkansas - 2.9
Texas has nearly half the population of the rest of the SEC states combined. The SECN is on damn near every cable system in Texas in year one. That is a ton of coin that the SEC gets b/c we joined.
Are we benefiting greatly by being in the conference? Sure. But so is the SEC by having us.
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:58 pm to Dr RC
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There are 26.9 million people in Texas.
Nobody's doubting that TAMU brought television markets with it.
My point is, however, TAMU is located in a state with 26.9 million people, some of the best television markets, has 2 million alumni, and yet can't generate more revenue than Arkansas, a college located in a state with about 11% of the population of Texas.
You can't generate revenue for your own school with all those advantages, but we're supposed to believe that TAMU is somehow one of the top producing schools revenue wise for the SEC?
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:52 pm to bobsacamano
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Uh, kentucky and arkansas bring in more revenue than TAMU. LINK / Which means A&M is 9th out of 14 teams on revenue brought into the SEC. Maybe you should rethink your position on revenue sharing.
your link said that a&m had $35m in ticket sales in 2013. in football alone, a&m sold 697,000 tickets.
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at an average of $90/ticket (it is likely more), that is over $62m.
regarding the "contributions" column on your link, donations to a&m athletics goes to the 12th man foundation and not the school/AD. the 12mf manages the money and pays the school.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:40 pm to G2160
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regarding the "contributions" column on your link, donations to a&m athletics goes to the 12th man foundation and not the school/AD. the 12mf manages the money and pays the school.
Yeah, that's how every school does it. SC gets around $12m a year from the Gamecock Club that's not reported, and the same goes for every other athletic department in the nation. I hear the same argument every year from Clemson fans insisting their IPTAY donations aren't counting towards their revenue and that they more than make up for the SEC money SC is getting.
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at an average of $90/ticket (it is likely more), that is over $62m.
No, it's $35m.
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So either TAMU is too stupid to add or it's not really "selling" 697,000 tickets at $90 a pop. You tell me which is more likely.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:43 pm to The Program
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Sharing is stupid, only bowl winning teams should get a piece of the profits.
if we work hard enough we can turn the SEC into the bev12.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:46 pm to Dr RC
not disputing your numbers, I have no doubt they are technically correct, Mo also brings population from KC and Stl that isn't included in the state pop. figures.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:19 pm to bobsacamano
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:19 pm to bobsacamano
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Yeah, that's how every school does it. SC gets around $12m a year from the Gamecock Club that's not reported, and the same goes for every other athletic department in the nation. I hear the same argument every year from Clemson fans insisting their IPTAY donations aren't counting towards their revenue and that they more than make up for the SEC money SC is getting. quote:at an average of $90/ticket (it is likely more), that is over $62m. No, it's $35m. LINK So either TAMU is too stupid to add or it's not really "selling" 697,000 tickets at $90 a pop. You tell me which is more likely.
your link is just repeating the same info, with this included:
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Texas A&M's 12th Man Foundation, a separate entity, funnels collected donations to the athletic department. Thus, total donations for 2013 collected by the 12th Man Foundation may not be reported here. Donations to large projects, such as the renovation of Kyle Field, are most likely not reported as they far exceed the $15.2 million listed.
i dont know where the usa today info comes from, but it is at the very least misleading when talking about the revenue that a school's athletics bring in. you tried to use it for a dick measuring/riding contest, but the fact is, it doesn't really tell the story.
if you aren't going to include all of the money coming into texas a&m athletics, then i guess i dont know what the point of the contest is.
EDIT: sacamano, in my previous post i did not account for the fact that the 30,000 student tickets cost around half of what the shitty seats cost. that doesn't bring the figure i was talking about down to $35m, but it does change the numbers that i pulled out of my arse.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:48 pm to Dr RC
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A&M is bringing in a shite load of cash to the SECN b/c of how big out state population is.
They just don't get it. TAMU brings in more than a lot of SEC schools combined.
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its not a bout what each schools makes for itself, its about the money that the SEC shares that is made from bowls, the SECN, TV contract etc.
True. Expansion is about football. No major conference is expanding for Basketball. From what I heard Kansas football even brings in more money to that school than basketball.lol. And they probably avg 40,000/game. Football is what drives athletics.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:53 pm to bayou2003
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And they probably avg 40,000/game.
so then they would be getting about 38K in visiting fans?
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:43 pm to bayou2003
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They just don't get it. TAMU brings in more than a lot of SEC schools combined.
Lol.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:04 am to bobsacamano
What he says is technically true in terms of raw numbers and money.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:32 am to The Program
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Sharing is stupid, only bowl winning teams should get a piece of the profits.
Does this mean all those years ND was losing their bowls you shouldn't have gotten paid?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:38 am to bobsacamano
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They just don't get it. TAMU brings in more than a lot of SEC schools combined.
Lol.
Do you know what the TV contracts are about. Each school(state) brings in a different amount. It goes by the state's population. People act as if there is a "population cap" or that each state can only bring in a max of 2-3mil viewer/subscriber.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:41 am to Dr RC
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Texas has nearly half the population of the rest of the SEC states combined. The SECN is on damn near every cable system in Texas in year one. That is a ton of coin that the SEC gets b/c we joined.
Thank you. Pretty much everybody that have Dish, ATT, Directv, or other major cable companies will get the SECN with the sports packages. And believe me pretty much everybody in Texas will get the additional sports packages for an extra $5.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:22 am to bayou2003
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And believe me pretty much everybody in Texas will get the additional sports packages for an extra $5.
yes, yes... we add length AND girth!
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:12 am to Jagd Tiger
The sharing mantra appears to be bleeding over into academics.
Next they'll be asking aTm and UF to share research grant money with the Mississippi schools, UK and Arky.
SEC Socialism
Next they'll be asking aTm and UF to share research grant money with the Mississippi schools, UK and Arky.
SEC Socialism
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:17 am to Froman
Uhh they had the number 1 defense in the sec...why would they need a change?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:32 pm to bobsacamano
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My point is, however, TAMU is located in a state with 26.9 million people, some of the best television markets, has 2 million alumni, and yet can't generate more revenue than Arkansas, a college located in a state with about 11% of the population of Texas.
We fixed that. With the new stadium I expect to be top 10 in revenues every year.
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