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re: SEC permanently suspends Ken Williamson after Auburn-Georgia review

Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:17 am to
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:17 am to
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This may be grounds to reverse several of Auburn’s results


Posted by Csmims
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:40 am to
What decent officiating Arkansas would have one loss this year
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:45 am to
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is that the same crew that cost Auburn the game in Norman?

No
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:49 am to
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Inside information saying the main issue was the officials stopping the play on the fumble that negated the UGA touch down.


Is see Georgia fans are still conveniently ignoring the fact that half of Georgia’s defensive line was lined up in the neutral zone, thus at worst it should have been a free play for Auburn with an offside penalty against Georgia that would have moved the ball from the 6 inch line to the 3 inch line and replay the down from there for Auburn



Note that ref looking straight down the line of scrimmage. I imagine this is one of the nine plays that got this crew permanently suspended.

Either way, at best, this play was a touchdown for Auburn. At worst, it was offside against Georgia and replay the down for Auburn. What it wasn’t, what it could never have been, was a touchdown for Georgia. I’m sorry, but that’s the cold, hard, irrefutable truth.

You can bitch, you can whine, you can pitch a slobbering hissy fit. But what you can do is refute it.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:52 am to
Other than On3 linking back to the original story, has this been picked up by any other legit sports reporting outfits?
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:56 am to
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is that the same crew that cost Auburn the game in Norman?


No, the SEC has multiple crews that don’t know the basic rules of football.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:03 am to
frick Georgia
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:17 am to
Interesting. The biggest beef was with the goal line play, and presumably the replay official had control of that. Although allowing Kirby to get away without calling him for timeout or delay of game was absurd, even though it's impact on the game was pretty much nothing.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:20 am to
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Interesting. The biggest beef was with the goal line play, and presumably the replay official had control of that. Although allowing Kirby to get away without calling him for timeout or delay of game was absurd, even though it's impact on the game was pretty much nothing.


According to the story, it was far more than this two plays. 11 plays were reported a reviewed by the SEC office. Of that 11, 9 were wrong.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:02 am to
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What do you think the Offense is about to do when they line up and are set in their stance? You think they could possibly be getting ready to put the ball in play.


They weren't set up in their stance though.

If you think I'm going to defend Auburn for no damn reason you're crazy.

Here are the events that happened.

Georgia lines up.

The QB wants to change the play, so he's doing so at the line, all the Georgia lineman are looking backwards to get the new play.

During this same time, the safety is clapping to get the attention of his end because of the play change.

By the time the Georgia line gets back set, he's not clapping and Kirby is calling a timeout.

I saw absolutely nothing an Auburn player did that interfered with the snap count, simulated it or anything else.

And overall I like the rule because Alabama has been burned by fake claps a few times in the past. But the Auburn player here was clearly not interfering with the snap count and the only thing people can claim is that you can never clap. And the rule itself doesn't support it.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:18 am to
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And overall I like the rule because Alabama has been burned by fake claps a few times in the past. But the Auburn player here was clearly not interfering with the snap count and the only thing people can claim is that you can never clap. And the rule itself doesn't support it.


Does not matter. The rule this season says that the defense is prohibited from clapping. It is by rule a disconcerting signal. That changed this year, 2025. This season the defense can not use a clap. One of those videos directly addresses just that, that there is no room for interpretation and it doesn’t matter the intent, it is still a penalty.

The rule changed this year. In previous years the officials had discretion whether they thought the defense was clapping to communicate or to induce a false start. This year the rule change makes it clear that the defense is prohibited from clapping. Multiple people in a myriad of different ways have explained that in this thread. Have you actually watched any of those videos explaining this year’s rule changes? The one from Pereiro is best. He says it clearly, “defense can not clap, period”. I am not sure how that can be misinterpreted
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:20 am to
Dalton are you being ugly????
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:22 am to
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Does not matter. The rule this season says that the defense is prohibited from clapping. It is by rule a disconcerting signal. That changed this year, 2025. This season the defense can not use a clap. One of those videos directly addresses just that, that there is no room for interpretation and it doesn’t matter the intent, it is still a penalty.

The rule changed this year. In previous years the officials had discretion whether they thought the defense was clapping to communicate or to induce a false start. This year the rule change makes it clear that the defense is prohibited from clapping. Multiple people in a myriad of different ways have explained that in this thread. Have you actually watched any of those videos explaining this year’s rule changes? The one from Pereiro is best. He says it clearly, “defense can not clap, period”. I am not sure how that can be misinterpreted


Because the offense wasn't in the process of putting the ball into play, which is how the rule starts out.

I've posted the rule multiple times.

Your interpretation of the rule is fricking retarded. Does this mean an offensive player is never allowed to use the word "Move"? frick no, because that would be stupid. What they aren't allowed to do is yell it at the line of scrimmage when they are set.

I would say you might as well be a fricking robot with the way you want to apply the rule, except the robot would include the part where it starts defining the TIME WHEN IT'S APPLICABLE.

frick off.

Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:16 pm to
Will the Bo Nix backwards spike be rectified?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:46 pm to
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According to the story, it was far more than this two plays. 11 plays were reported a reviewed by the SEC office. Of that 11, 9 were wrong.


The fake story?
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
3187 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:56 pm to
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The fake story?

Pat McAfee show just discussing the fallout from it with Herbstreit. Brings a little more validity and they used same source on the intro
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Pat McAfee show just discussing the fallout from it with Herbstreit. Brings a little more validity and they used same source on the intro


That doesn’t bring more validity if they use the same source
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
3187 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:59 pm to
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That doesn’t bring more validity if they use the same source

On ESPN with a host for Gameday about one of the cash cows (SEC) of their network

This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43510 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:02 pm to
It’s still the same source. They are using it as an echo chamber. And are you acting like ESPN has any integrity in their reporting
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
3187 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:07 pm to
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It’s still the same source. They are using it as an echo chamber. And are you acting like ESPN has any integrity in their reporting

Keep going, loving your mental gymnastics
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