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re: SEC Network FAQs
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:49 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:49 pm to ProjectP2294
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That's what I'm worried about. I would hope that CST or CSS would still be able to broadcast SEC baseball games that SECN isn't showing.
I can almost guarantee this won't be the case.
ESPN3 charges $0.10-0.15 per subscriber to the ISPs. WatchESPN is similarly priced I believe. The announcement that the SEC will have similar "online channels" puts us in the same position as with the television content - we need games that people want to watch in order to force ISPs to carry it.
The ESPN digital channels alone netted something silly like $250m last year which just seemed absurd to me until I did the math -- 100m subscribers at $0.10-15 month * 12 months * 2 channels = $240-360m. They also get a cut from other platforms (Xbox live, etc which is why those frickers won't let me stream ESPN3 with my Roku). Pretty nice revenue and the content is already owned and all you have is production costs.
This is the new way. And if we get 1/4 of that revenue you are talking an extra $5-6m per school and growing on digital rights alone. But it's going to mean short term pain to get distribution and we're going to miss some games.
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:54 pm to danfraz
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Joe alleva just said no more geaux zone with SECn
So if your school has something similar its done too
Radio rights won't be affected those still stay in house or however your school currently handles
Radio is finished so what does it really matter
Radio is far from finished. Until cars drive themselves and until Talk Radio is no more, radio is far from finished.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:55 pm to bbap
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so the only carrier so far is uverse? hmmm.
Yep hope that changes. I fricking hate uverse
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:56 pm to scrooster
I wasn't saying radio was done as far as listeners
As a business there is no money in it, unless you own 500 stations
As a business there is no money in it, unless you own 500 stations
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:26 pm to danfraz
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As a business there is no money in it, unless you own 500 stations
Well, you're right in that regard in terms of Clear Channel, Citadel Broadcasting, Viacom, Westwood, Disney, Cumulus, Radio One, et al ... but still, their local affiliates have to have locally sponsored and supported inventory in order to operate from 6AM-9AM and then again during the drive time hours ... so they are making money and they will continue to thrive. Especially local sports talk.
I'm fairly well-connected to radio through a couple of family members so I keep up with things through them. One in the broadcasting end, as long time talent, the other in the sale end as a General Manager that oversees eight stations.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:15 am to danfraz
CST has announced it will no longer be broadcasting SEC sports. The comment is that ESPN would be foolish not to sell its unviewed product to another network. Consider the fees that ESPN would be demanding from CST as an example. ESPN would leverage for the highest fees it can get. If CST pays those fees, who do you think those fees will be passed on to? You are automatically assuming that CST & others will pay the high fees ESPN will be demanding. It's not near the slam dunk you think it is if you know anything bout CST as only one example.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:20 am to danfraz
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I wasn't saying radio was done as far as listeners
As a business there is no money in it, unless you own 500 stations
Until we invent teleportation we will always need truck drivers. If we have truck drivers, there will always be a market for radio. Is it a growing market? No, and the dynamics of internet and such change things, but don't think that radio contracts won't be renewed and renegotiated in to the future.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:37 am to TeLeFaWx
local radio may not be dead, but it's seems to be dying. satellite radio w/ national programming has picked up many of the listeners that spend a lot of time in a vehicle like truck drivers. I do know that universities are having a tough time getting local stations to carry games because the ratings aren't as high because of tv and the satellite radio option.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:44 am to winyahpercy
As it relates to streaming, LSU's "Geauxzone", and other similar platforms:
I don't think we'll lose the content we have now unless the school chooses to no longer produce it, or you have a provider that doesn't carry the network.
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36.Right now, I see all my favorite team’s games online at the [SEC school athletics] site. Will I still be able to see all those games?
The Network is for media rights to all sports across our 14 member institutions. Any games produced by the schools will have an outlet, either the SEC Network or its digital extensions, where fans can watch.
I don't think we'll lose the content we have now unless the school chooses to no longer produce it, or you have a provider that doesn't carry the network.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:13 pm to TeLeFaWx
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PAC-12 already discussing going back to 8
I think you are getting confused with the B1G. They back tracked from that recently.
No, he's right. The Big Ten will be going to 9 conference games starting in 2016. The Pac-12 is discussing going from 9 conference games to 8 conference games.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:16 pm to HuskerFan182
And to all thinking that ESPN will sub-license some games to other networks that's not going to happen. Any games that fall beyond selection from CBS and ESPN will be property of the SEC Network. Rather or not they choose to air it on the network or on ESPN3 is their choice but that's all any games will air on.
All football and men's basketball games will air live on CBS, ESPN or SECN. There will be overflow channels for multiple football games going on at the same time.
All football and men's basketball games will air live on CBS, ESPN or SECN. There will be overflow channels for multiple football games going on at the same time.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:20 pm to winyahpercy
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local radio may not be dead, but it's seems to be dying. satellite radio w/ national programming has picked up many of the listeners that spend a lot of time in a vehicle like truck drivers. I do know that universities are having a tough time getting local stations to carry games because the ratings aren't as high because of tv and the satellite radio option.
What local stations, like 107.5 The Game, are having trouble doing is finding sponsors willing to pay astronomical prices for the advertising. 107.5 The Game is trying to sell $15k - $20k season ad packages with limited spots to a lot of local businesses and that is simply too much. The days of getting $1,200.00 per game for four 30 second spots are over. And I get that Cumulus is paying a couple million a year to Gamecock Sports Properties for the rights, but what they fail to realize is that it all doesn't have to be recouped strictly during pregame and game-time and post-game broadcasts. Just having the games gives them a leg-up on Clear Channel and WVOC by default - as fans will, and do, tune-in just to listen to the official radio station of the Gamecocks.
It's the same everywhere. But radio is going to have to come to grips with spreading it out a little rather than trying to recoup it all during football season.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:21 pm to HuskerFan182
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And to all thinking that ESPN will sub-license some games to other networks that's not going to happen.
I just don't see why, if CST wants to broadcast the Sunday LSU-Missouri baseball game, and ESPN doesn't plan to air it, they would leave that money on the table.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:27 pm to ProjectP2294
Right, they already do it with games they own the rights to.
It makes sense that they wouldn't advertise it right now, they have all of the bargaining power as they negotiate with the carriers. But once their deals are worked out I'm not sure why it is so crazy to think they will continue to do what they've already been doing.
It makes sense that they wouldn't advertise it right now, they have all of the bargaining power as they negotiate with the carriers. But once their deals are worked out I'm not sure why it is so crazy to think they will continue to do what they've already been doing.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:31 pm to MOT
So basically for LSU fans wanting to watch baseball games, will we be seeing more or less games?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:37 pm to TheDoc
If they don't work out deals with regional companies because they just don't want to, as some people seem to think, or if the price is too high, or whatever....we will probably see less on TV.
I think we will see more online, assuming schools continue to produce the stream.
I think we will see more online, assuming schools continue to produce the stream.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:10 pm to TheDoc
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So basically for LSU fans wanting to watch baseball games, will we be seeing more or less games?
We won't know until later next year. Could be more will air but could be that the majority air on ESPN3 and not on the SECN. More details will come out later next year.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:12 pm to HuskerFan182
I'm thinking this could be a really good thing, or a really bad thing 
Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:44 pm to GumBro Jackson
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I didn't see this anywhere else in the thread (could have missed it, I have been checking in every now and then), but there is a report that ESPN will own the whole thing. If that is true I do not like.
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That's good for the SEC. ESPN is on the line for all the money that is needed to start the channel. The SEC just gets paid, and get a lot of money because of this channel, without having to put anything up front.
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