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Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:35 pm to Tom288
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:35 pm to Tom288
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Your past doesn't mean shite, we're talking about what's available to a HC
Unless the past is an indication that the program is built for long-term success and has shown a commitment to being a top 5 program all time (and, that past also shows even idiots like Fran, Shula, and DuBose can win 10+ games at Bama)
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the resources, money,
I'd argue - with evidence if I had time to pull a ton of links for you - that the resources/money are virtually identical at Bama and Florida.
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and above all and where we have, and will always have you beat, the richness in recruiting. Florida has the best players in the country.
Florida does have some great players, no doubt. Just off the top of my head - Richardson, Clinton-Dix, Cooper, Henry, Ridley, Harrison, Leatherwood have all chosen to leave Florida to play ball at Bama. Don't even pretend you've got the state locked down. Talent leaves there all the time, so it isn't as big of an advantage as you're trying to make it seem.
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you can't deny that UF has EVERYTHING a HC could dream of to play for titles year in and year out
I'm not denying that you have all those things. So does Bama. That was my point. In an area where you don't have a clear advantage over another school, you look for other data factors - in this case I looked at SEC titles. If everything is equal bt Bama and Florida, why does one have more than 2x the SEC titles as the other?
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If Saban was UF's HC I bet he'd have done even better.
Better than 5 SEC titles and 4 National Titles in 10 years? Come on man. Let's be real.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:39 pm to VFL1800FPD
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What? Put your hate-boner for UT away
Eh he's actually been pretty unintentionally hilarious for a while. He posts inaccurate shite all the time trying to convince himself that UGA is going to the Super Bowl despite poor Kirby inheriting a rebuild even worse than ours (Richt couldn't recruit - don't believe those classes!). One of his favorites is repeating to himself that UT has lost our entire team.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:07 pm to GermantownTiger
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8. Ole Miss 9. South Carolina 10. Arkansas
O rly?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:13 pm to rockiee
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I think the debate between USCe and Arkansas is close. South Carolina definitely has a talent advantage over Arkansas but they also have to share their state with a strong program.
That is a reasonable and intelligent comment. Now fortunately no one has RAed you for it but be careful in the future.
Nah, I'm joking but that was a solid observation. USCe has the advantage in talent but they also have Clemson squatting in state so I think it evens out.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:00 pm to GermantownTiger
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Complete Rankings:
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Auburn
6. Texas A&M
7. Tennessee
8. Ole Miss (pre-Death Penalty)
9. South Carolina
10. Arkansas
11. Mississippi State
12. Kentucky
13. Missouri
14. Vanderbilt
Fixed it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:20 pm to bamasgot13
Arkansas should be eighth. We have the whole state to ourselves (even though the talent isn't great)And next door to Texas.
But I can see why we dropped that far down, thanks to Bert.
But I can see why we dropped that far down, thanks to Bert.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:25 pm to VivaZapata27
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SEC coaching jobs ranked by VivaZapata27
Member when we kicked your arse that year and proved how stupid it is to have beat writers from state newspapers ranking teams?
I remember 55-20!
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:30 pm to beatbammer
Not even
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:48 pm to CNB
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Not even
Ya, my thoughts aren't even including the NCAA stuff. I still don't see the argument for them at 8.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:53 pm to MaroonNation
You also member being number one at some point. It's everything in the middle that you're hazy on.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:54 pm to rockiee
Somebody has to be eight.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:55 pm to VivaZapata27
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Somebody has to be eight.
Sure but I think at least two teams have a better argument and maybe 3
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:58 pm to rockiee
I don't think so. Maybe Arkansas. I wouldn't have been surprised to see Arkansas there. But I don't think you have a strong enough argument to get worked up over it either way.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:01 pm to VivaZapata27
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But I don't think you have a strong enough argument to get worked up over it either way
I disagree because I believe the list is fairly accurate outside of Ole Miss. The poster before that listed some of the previous hires made a great point.
The whole state talent thing is really the only argument in favor of Ole Miss IMO but even that is somewhat countered by the fact you have to share your state with another SEC program.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:05 pm to rockiee
Which really begs the question, if you've made great coaching hires and are still in the bottom third of the league, how good of a job is it really? I mean if great coaches can't win big there, what's the problem? The answer is that it isn't a great job.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:10 pm to VivaZapata27
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Which really begs the question, if you've made great coaching hires and are still in the bottom third of the league, how good of a job is it really? I mean if great coaches can't win big there, what's the problem? The answer is that it isn't a great job.
You are making that debate in regards to Ole Miss and Arkansas? You are going to have to use a very small sample size for that to work in your favor.
That is also way too simplistic. AD's make bad hires all the time. It doesn't mean that you can always project that on to the coaching job after a coach fails.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:11 pm to GermantownTiger
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Complete Rankings:
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Texas A&M
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
7. Tennessee
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
10. Mississippi State
11. Missouri
12. Ole Miss
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
This is the correct answer
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:16 am to The Winner
Lol at CBS. Forget the NCAA investigation, having MSU at #13 and Ole Miss at #8 screams troll job. 
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:51 am to beatbammer
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Complete Rankings:
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Auburn
8. Ole Miss (pre-Death Penalty)
9. South Carolina
10. Arkansas
11. Mississippi State
12. Kentucky
13. Missouri
14. Vanderbilt
Fixed It
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:36 am to AshLSU
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The only reason to have Bama over UF is that Bama has unparalleled Birmingham support
LSU should be ranked lower considering the fanatical delusion found in so many.
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