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re: SEC basketball ranked by various criteria

Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:58 am to
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:58 am to
quote:

Half of the teams get voted in...u guys 1 and done much?


Oh cmon not even close to half lol.

But yes, we are notorious for flaming out in the tournament. Hence 26 apps and never won 4 in a row to reach the final four.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:58 am to
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Acie Law IV is A&M's only All-American in mens basketball.

Not sure if the "1" is going to be more or less embarrassing than the question marks, but for the sake of accuracy you may as well throw it in there.


Damn! He was the only one I could find but I assumed surely I was missing more so I just put ??. I'll update. Wow
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:05 am to
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How many of those are SEC titles though? Easier to win in the SWC without UK.


I definitely agree with that. SWC had no big dog in it so it was Arky's to lose. SEC, Big 12, ACC all have mammoths to beat.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:25 am to
There is Kentucky and then everbody else. They are the only SEC program that is consistent, by that I mean almost a damn century of being good
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3155 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:18 am to
quote:

Conference Championships:
Mississippi State--10


This is incorrect.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3155 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:39 am to
quote:

Acie Law IV is A&M's only All-American in mens basketball.

Not sure if the "1" is going to be more or less embarrassing than the question marks, but for the sake of accuracy you may as well throw it in there.


Looks like his list of All-Americans might be kind of inaccurate. It looks like he might be listing first-team AAs only for some schools--but first, second, AND third-team AAs for other schools. Also, some individual players who were AA's multiple years are counted only one time for some schools but every season they were an AA for other schools.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4371 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:17 am to
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How many of those are SEC titles though? Easier to win in the SWC without UK.

yeah because Phi Slamma Jamma was always an easy win
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:28 am to
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National Championships:
Kentucky--8
Florida--2
Arkansas--1
LSU--0


1935 motherfracker. If Arky and Bama can claim mythical football NCs then we can can claim em for bball.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5575 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:34 am to
Really think if you discount Arkansas dominance in the SWC due to "no big dog" in that conference you should, in turn, discount Kentucky's for the same reason. Arkansas was the big dog in the SWC
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:40 am to
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Arky does have a legit argument for #2 with their longevity and advantage in conference titles


Arkansas' swc titles and other stats from that time are irrelevant in this discussion.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:43 am to
Lulz, 1935.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:46 am to
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Arkansas' swc titles and other stats from that time are irrelevant in this discussion.


Well that's convenient. btw, I think the op can make whatever stats/criteria they want relevant on their own thread.

Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:54 am to
Somebody might as well start a theead about how a&m and arkansas are #2 & 3 all time in the sec for football since they have so many conference championships.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:56 am to
So no one can count anything before they got to the sec. Then how about we discount everything that happened until this last expansion for everyone- that sounds fair.
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
55445 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:59 am to
You can't discount before expansion unless you discount after.

ETA: We still get to claim our National Championship even if you choose to do so.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 8:01 am
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:04 am to
Phi Slamma Jamma was a 3 year cycle in the SWAC.

Have to place Arkie with Florida as a tier under Kentucky, then LSU.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 8:05 am
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19693 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Arkansas' swc titles and other stats from that time are irrelevant in this discussion.


But you can't discount tourney appearances.
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
55445 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:14 am to
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Have to place Arkie with Florida as a tier under Kentucky, then LSU.


I would agree with this.


quote:

But you can't discount tourney appearances.


And this. No one really cares or should care about conference titles imo.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 8:15 am
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:17 am to
I would place Florida slightly ahead of Arkansas...still, they are ahead of LSU and way ahead of everyone else in conference.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9626 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:20 am to
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No one really cares or should care about conference titles imo.


Or more importantly conference tournament titles.
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