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re: SEC Basketball Programs ranked by all time win pct. & all time wins through 2017
Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:53 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:53 pm to Drewbie
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Except 2 national titles does not a program make. This is about body of work all-time for the programs.
Of course it is, I don't think anyone argues that. National titles are a part of that body of work and I'd assume how you rank a program comes down to the weight you give the titles, title game appearances, FF's, etc.
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:59 pm to bgator85
We also have a comfortable lead in the all-time head to head against them. 
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:00 pm to bgator85
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Of course it is, I don't think anyone argues that. National titles are a part of that body of work and I'd assume how you rank a program comes down to the weight you give the titles, title game appearances, FF's, etc.
Yet they ALWAYS use their single NCAA title as some kind of "gotcha" card against LSU.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:07 pm to Korin
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Yet they ALWAYS use their single NCAA title as some kind of "gotcha" card against LSU.
You've posted this for a second time now, and its worth noting that nobody knows wtf you're talking about.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:07 pm to Korin
quote:There's a massive difference in debating with a team that has never won vs. two teams that both had back to back national title game trips. The only difference is Florida won their defense and Arkansas lost to UCLA.
Yet they ALWAYS use their single NCAA title as some kind of "gotcha" card against LSU.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:07 pm to Hawgeye
Yet you just can't ignore it and have to respond every time someone brings it up.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:09 pm to OldPete
Bama fans living in the distant pre-birth past again. Bama may have all time wins from before Rumpelstiltskin took his nap, but it is ridiculous to claim Bama as a top 3 program now or in the last average lifetime of those on this message board.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:09 pm to Korin
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Yet you just can't ignore it and have to respond every time someone brings it up.
Someone? You're the only one.
Its hard to ignore ignorance.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:09 pm to bgator85
quote:It's a deciding factor if the bodies of work are similar, but I don't think anyone can look at the numbers objectively and say Florida is near Arkansas as an overall program. Yet there are people here that seem to think that not only is Florida close, but that they surpass Arkansas as a program. It's just silly.
Of course it is, I don't think anyone argues that. National titles are a part of that body of work and I'd assume how you rank a program comes down to the weight you give the titles, title game appearances, FF's, etc
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:09 pm to Korin
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Yet you just can't ignore it and have to respond every time someone brings it up.
Oh no, here comes the you keep responding to me response
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:11 pm to Drewbie
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There's a massive difference in debating with a team that has never won vs. two teams that both had back to back national title game trips. The only difference is Florida won their defense and Arkansas lost to UCLA.
Guess y'all should've gotten the job done and not crapped your pants against UCLA, huh?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:12 pm to Korin
quote:Guess y'all shouldn't have been a doormat for 80 years, huh?
Guess y'all should've gotten the job done and not crapped your pants against UCLA, huh?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:15 pm to Drewbie
And yet we still have more NCAA titles than mighty Arkansas.
Guess you didn't think that one through, huh?
Guess you didn't think that one through, huh?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:19 pm to Korin
quote:And 300 less wins in 4 more seasons, and 8% lower win percentage, and 1 less final four, 2 less elite eights, 2 less sweet sixteens, and 13 less tournament appearances.
And yet we still have more NCAA titles than mighty Arkansas.
Guess you didn't think that one through, huh?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:19 pm to Drewbie
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It's a deciding factor if the bodies of work are similar, but I don't think anyone can look at the numbers objectively and say Florida is near Arkansas as an overall program. Yet there are people here that seem to think that not only is Florida close, but that they surpass Arkansas as a program. It's just silly.
That makes it sound like the number of national titles is a tie breaker. It is a huge factor when looking into a program's history.
I think there are decent arguments either way. I don't agree that it is not close. UF has more titles and title game appearances, Arkansas has one more Final Four and two more Elite 8's (and two of those were in 8 team fields).
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:22 pm to bgator85
quote:When the discrepancy is 2 vs. 1, it's not the make or break stat when there's as much room in literally everything else as there is between Arkansas and Florida.
That makes it sound like the number of national titles is a tie breaker. It is a huge factor when looking into a program's history.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:47 pm to Drewbie
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When the discrepancy is 2 vs. 1, it's not the make or break stat when there's as much room in literally everything else as there is between Arkansas and Florida.
You've said you don't think its close, I'm curious what you think has to be done for UF to even get to that point. Outside of appearances, tournament results aren't significantly different, what would another UF Final Four to do your ranking?
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:49 pm to TheRaid
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Bama fans living in the distant pre-birth past again. Bama may have all time wins from before Rumpelstiltskin took his nap, but it is ridiculous to claim Bama as a top 3 program now or in the last average lifetime of those on this message board.
What is it about the term ALL-TIME that confuses you, sonny?Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:54 pm to bgator85
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You've said you don't think its close, I'm curious what you think has to be done for UF to even get to that point. Outside of appearances, tournament results aren't significantly different, what would another UF Final Four to do your ranking?
I think it is close and I normally list the two 2a and 2b. Though if you put a gun to my head I would give Arkansas the edge just for the longevity of the program and having 4 very good coaches and a tbd on Mike Anderson.
Kruger had a good season with Florida in 1994, but outside of that it has been one head coach at Florida. I want to see what all White can do on his own once he has been running the program for 5-6 years. So far, he has done well this year but had some mild hiccups last season.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:18 pm to Drewbie
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And 300 less wins in 4 more seasons, and 8% lower win percentage, and 1 less final four, 2 less elite eights, 2 less sweet sixteens, and 13 less tournament appearances.
Hang the banners.
Looks like y'all already do hang banners just for making the NCAA tournament.
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This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:24 pm
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