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re: SEC bans pro football and basketball players from returning. A big FU to LSU from the SEC

Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
Time to move on to the Big12
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
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Good luck suing the conference. Surely there wouldn’t be repercussions for doing so

I don't think you understand how this works. If LSU has to sue the conference over this and wins, the SEC almost assuredly won't be allowed to levy sanctions against Lane, LSU, or anyone with LSU football. We just went over this with Chambliss.
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
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Again, just like they agreed to with the NCAA?


Conference bylaws are not mandated by the NCAA.

The TRO isn't directed at a conference, either.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:28 pm to
As it should be
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:29 pm to
LSU won't be fighting this:

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The vote from SEC presidents on the new pro-player ban was unanimous, as well as granting Greg Sankey unlimited powers to enforce the rule.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:30 pm to
Certainly sounds like the conference has more teeth than the ncaa.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73543 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:30 pm to
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Conference bylaws are not mandated by the NCAA.

The TRO isn't directed at a conference, either.


I agree, but conference bylaws state a player must be in good standing with the NCAA in order to compete. A player like Chambliss isn't. He's allowed to compete because he got a TRO to circumvent the NCAA's eligibility ruling. So if he plays, the conference isn't enforcing the bylaw that states a player must be in good standing.

By creating a rule that prohibits these players from competing, they're selectively enforcing their own rules and bylaws.
Posted by TideSaint
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:31 pm to
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The vote from SEC presidents on the new pro-player ban was unanimous, as well as granting Greg Sankey unlimited powers to enforce the rule.


LSU's president would be a fricking dumbass to support anyone suing the conference when he/she voted not to allow them to play.

But muh lawsuits!!!!!1!!!1!!!
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:33 pm to
LSU won’t fight this, the players can sue and do what they want to get eligibility but they won’t play at an SEC school. LSU isn’t suing its own conference over a rule that they agreed to so 3 players can play. This shits over and so retarded
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Certainly sounds like the conference has more teeth than the ncaa.


They do.

You can thank the Big 12 for dropping their nuts on Texas Tech and the Sorsby situation.

You have to admire the Big 12.

First they backed the SEC during the pandemic to have a season after those pussies in the PAC 12 and Big 10 canceled their seasons and now this.
Posted by houstonearler
Member since Jan 2005
343 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:34 pm to
I’m a lawyer. The SEC is a voluntary organization. With bylaws agreed to by its members voluntarily. The SEC bylaws give the commissioner broad and vast powers to punish schools who engage in conduct detrimental to league or league competion. Sankey can on his own initiative suspend coaches. Withhold conference revenue (was $72 million last year). Or ban teams from playing in conference games or postseason games. He can effect institute death penalty sanctions.

Courts strongly defer to voluntary organizations with their enforcement of bylaws. You’ll notice Tech and Sorsby folded up shop once the Big 12 sued Tech I. Federal court for a declaration the Big 12 had the right to enforce its bylaws to punish Tech for playing Sorsby. They knew they were cooked.

I’ve compared the SEC and Big 12 bylaws. The SECs allow even more discretion and can be done by the commissioner unilaterally (The Big 12 required a supermajority of members to vote for punishment). Sankey can do it without any approval of members with the stroke of a pen.

The TROs handed out by local judges don’t apply to the SEC. They only apply to the ncaa, its agents and those acting in concert with the NCAA.

What’s more, players would lack the legal standing to sue the SEC for punishing its own members under its own internal governance procedures and bylaws.

So in essence, LSU would have to sue the SEC. And im fairly certain the lawsuit would have to be brought in Atlanta. So it wouldn’t be handled by a local Cletus judge fanboy.

Punishing the school directly for playing these players under the bylaws is the trump card. It’s a voluntary association. LSU can certainly exercise its rights to leave the SEC as long as it follows the bylaws’ procedures. But it can’t avoid the application of the very bylaws it agreed to and has operated under for decades because it doesn’t like the result.

The SEC could also just file a Dec action in a favorable venue establishing its right to apply its bylaws. Kiffin running his mouth about what the SEC can or can’t do today may have opened the door to there being a justiciable dispute.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:35 pm to
It had to be done.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73543 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:36 pm to
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LSU won’t fight this, the players can sue and do what they want to get eligibility but they won’t play at an SEC school. LSU isn’t suing its own conference over a rule that they agreed to so 3 players can play.


It was never about these players playing at LSU, one of them is injured and overweight supposedly and the other would be, at best, TE2 and has zero chemistry with the quarterback and team.

This is all about selective enforcement of conference rules and creating a clear understanding of who is eligible and who isn't.
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
85258 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:36 pm to
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I’m a lawyer. The SEC is a voluntary organization. With bylaws agreed to by its members voluntarily. The SEC bylaws give the commissioner broad and vast powers to punish schools who engage in conduct detrimental to league or league competion. Sankey can on his own initiative suspend coaches. Withhold conference revenue (was $72 million last year). Or ban teams from playing in conference games or postseason games. He can effect institute death penalty sanctions.

Courts strongly defer to voluntary organizations with their enforcement of bylaws. You’ll notice Tech and Sorsby folded up shop once the Big 12 sued Tech I. Federal court for a declaration the Big 12 had the right to enforce its bylaws to punish Tech for playing Sorsby. They knew they were cooked.

I’ve compared the SEC and Big 12 bylaws. The SECs allow even more discretion and can be done by the commissioner unilaterally (The Big 12 required a supermajority of members to vote for punishment). Sankey can do it without any approval of members with the stroke of a pen.

The TROs handed out by local judges don’t apply to the SEC. They only apply to the ncaa, its agents and those acting in concert with the NCAA.

What’s more, players would lack the legal standing to sue the SEC for punishing its own members under its own internal governance procedures and bylaws.

So in essence, LSU would have to sue the SEC. And im fairly certain the lawsuit would have to be brought in Atlanta. So it wouldn’t be handled by a local Cletus judge fanboy.

Punishing the school directly for playing these players under the bylaws is the trump card. It’s a voluntary association. LSU can certainly exercise its rights to leave the SEC as long as it follows the bylaws’ procedures. But it can’t avoid the application of the very bylaws it agreed to and has operated under for decades because it doesn’t like the result.

The SEC could also just file a Dec action in a favorable venue establishing its right to apply its bylaws. Kiffin running his mouth about what the SEC can or can’t do today may have opened the door to there being a justiciable dispute.


Goddamn, man.

You didn't have to murder the dude.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14801 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:38 pm to
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the lawsuit would have to be brought in Atlanta. So it wouldn’t be handled by a local Cletus judge fanboy.


Posted by houstonearler
Member since Jan 2005
343 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:38 pm to
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Again, just like they agreed to with the NCAA?


Apples and oranges legally. That is a player suing the NCAA. The player didn’t agree to bylaws. And there are antitrust issues. This is the SEC versus a member of the SEC on enforcement of bylaws the member agreed to voluntarily.

Also won’t be judge Cletus from Baton Rouge deciding the case.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73543 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

The SEC is a voluntary organization. With bylaws agreed to by its members voluntarily. The SEC bylaws give the commissioner broad and vast powers to punish schools who engage in conduct detrimental to league or league competion. Sankey can on his own initiative suspend coaches. Withhold conference revenue (was $72 million last year). Or ban teams from playing in conference games or postseason games. He can effect institute death penalty sanctions.

Courts strongly defer to voluntary organizations with their enforcement of bylaws


What are the legal differences between the NCAA, as a voluntary organization and the SEC, as a voluntary organization?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
9985 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:39 pm to
Eh this was fun to follow but certainly not a break for LSU lol. Anyone saying otherwise is pretty retarded and should be laughed at.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8643 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:39 pm to
Just like the NCAA, the players will obtain an injunction against the SEC.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4620 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:40 pm to
Yes yes, these slack jaw drunken creatures had to be taught a lesson.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 6:41 pm
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