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re: SEC and Big10 moving closer to splitting football from NCAA
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:47 am to twk
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:47 am to twk
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I'm agnostic on whether the SEC and Big Ten should take football out of the NCAA, but I do find it interesting that we are just talking about football. They don't want to kill the Final Four, or Omaha, etc., and that's probably the right move.
Basketball and all other sports should be left alone. Football doesn’t matter to me since we have always been at a disadvantage due to recruiting base and resources, just being competitive is pretty damn good if being serious.
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:52 am to AUTiger789
Why does SEC Coastal only have 4 teams?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:01 am to southernboisb
Same reason Ole Miss is listed twice. It’s just not well thought out. Noise, mostly
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:04 am to lefty08
Didn’t even catch that. & that makes the breakdown more confusing.
Also curious how NC & NC St. are in the SEC but only VT in B1G.
Also curious how NC & NC St. are in the SEC but only VT in B1G.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:22 am to southernboisb
HOW do they say they can ONLY be broken up depending on which conference they’re going to?
Bc they’re state schools, ran by state government. The guys calling the shots Virgalina don’t care if the flagships are in different conferences, they just care that they are in conferences that pay money. It’s good for the state to have both flagships raking in money.
Bc they’re state schools, ran by state government. The guys calling the shots Virgalina don’t care if the flagships are in different conferences, they just care that they are in conferences that pay money. It’s good for the state to have both flagships raking in money.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:01 am to Landmass
Been telling y'all how it's going to go for awhile
There will be new corporate structures for each "college" which will likely be associated with the school in name only.
There will be salaries, a high school draft. College admission will be a requirement at first, but quickly drop off the map.
Most other schools will fall into the minor leagues, get almost no TV time, etc.
Pros: players will be bound to a contract, no more one and done until trades start. NIL will become what it was intended to be, no more modern bag men.
Cons: pretty much everything else.
One day you'll be watching your team, with a seventh year journeyman QB who makes $1M a year and never went to your school and you'll ask yourself why you're still watching this.
There will be new corporate structures for each "college" which will likely be associated with the school in name only.
There will be salaries, a high school draft. College admission will be a requirement at first, but quickly drop off the map.
Most other schools will fall into the minor leagues, get almost no TV time, etc.
Pros: players will be bound to a contract, no more one and done until trades start. NIL will become what it was intended to be, no more modern bag men.
Cons: pretty much everything else.
One day you'll be watching your team, with a seventh year journeyman QB who makes $1M a year and never went to your school and you'll ask yourself why you're still watching this.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:16 am to AUTiger789
bottom line - how much will this cost the fans?
at a certain price point you may lose a lot of your fanbase
at a certain price point you may lose a lot of your fanbase
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:26 am to jonnyanony
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NIL will become what it was intended to b
NIL will never, ever be what is was "intended" to be.
NIL was supposd to be so players could get a cut of their jersey sales from the bookstore. Or sign autographs for a fee. Or do a local TV spot for the car dealership, etc. As soon as the powers that be gave the green light to pay players legally it was ALWAYS going to be abused in some way or another. NIL, as in: getting paid strictly for a player's (not recruit...player) name, image, or likeness is never going to work as it was supposed to.
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One day you'll be watching your team, with a seventh year journeyman QB who makes $1M a year and never went to your school and you'll ask yourself why you're still watching this.
man that is bleak but you probably aren' far off. It's already starting to feel a bit like that now.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:11 am to Landmass
We now have players turning down the pros!
Lendeborg, a projected first-round pick in two recent mock drafts by CBS Sports, will headline one of the premier transfer portal classes in college basketball at Michigan, which ranks second behind St. John's in the 247Sports recruiting rankings.
Lendeborg received a NIL package believed to be in the neighborhood of $3 million to return to school, sources indicated to CBS Sports. He led Division l basketball in double-doubles at UAB last season.
Lendeborg, a projected first-round pick in two recent mock drafts by CBS Sports, will headline one of the premier transfer portal classes in college basketball at Michigan, which ranks second behind St. John's in the 247Sports recruiting rankings.
Lendeborg received a NIL package believed to be in the neighborhood of $3 million to return to school, sources indicated to CBS Sports. He led Division l basketball in double-doubles at UAB last season.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:16 am to TxTiger758
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I have a feeling eventually baseball and basketball will over take college football. People will get turned off at the notation it's nfl lite. And before you say no look at the nfl.. blah blah blah.. this isn't the nfl it's college sports.
I think this is true. More people watch college baseball and college basketball than minor league baseball or G League basketball.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:18 am to bamabaseballsec
It’s mostly in the callers/comments that, for whatever reason, think that ONLY for the SEC get grouped in with NCST & VT.
But since me of the hosts have thrown it out there that NC & VA are 2 duos so what does the SEC do about FSU/Clem.?
But, as I’ve also pointed out, there’s talk about the top of XII & ACC getting together as a new conference. (Unsure what their other teams are going to do.)
But since me of the hosts have thrown it out there that NC & VA are 2 duos so what does the SEC do about FSU/Clem.?
But, as I’ve also pointed out, there’s talk about the top of XII & ACC getting together as a new conference. (Unsure what their other teams are going to do.)
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:12 am to Landmass
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According to most who have viewed the memorandum, the agreement grants the Big Ten and SEC control over the format but directs them to have “meaningful consultation” and collect “input” from the other conferences and TV partner, ESPN.
Meaningful input. You can't get much more vague LOL.
There are about 30 teams total in CFB currently who are arguably playing the same game at the highest level. There are possibly 30 more who could do so for some period of time if they were fully committed. Thats 60 teams, which is still too many to be a "league" that is manageable and meaningful 4 conferences of about 10 each where everyone in the conference plays everyone plus 2-3 of the teams from the other conferences every year and the top 2 -3 in a playoff is where we are headed. There is going to be some sort of relegation I think to give some incentive to both stay in the big leagues or to commit the resources to move up.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:00 pm to WG_Dawg
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NIL will never, ever be what is was "intended" to be.
If there's a draft, the incentive to pay players who have never done squat drops to zero. That fixes it.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:18 pm to Landmass
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In many ways, it handcuffs college football’s biggest brands with the richest donor bases, like Texas, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Oregon and Miami
Big six baby
We pay alot to go 8-5
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:48 pm to bamameister
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replaced better and higher ranked SEC teams
What teams are we talking about?
Bama lost to Michigan's B squad
South Carolina lost to Illinois
If anything the playoffs and bowl games showed the SEC may have been over represented in the playoffs last year. Hard to take a one year sample as overall it is still the best conference but last year was not a good year for the league
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:20 pm to Clockwatcher68
quote:perfect illustration for that collection of degenerates -
Big10
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:43 pm to Buckeye06
quote:the 35th pick of the NFL draft opted out for the 2H of that game as well
half of South Carolina's regular season roster lost to Illinois in bowl game
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:25 pm to AUTiger789
SEC Coastal: South Carolina, Clemson, North Carolina, Florida St., Virginia
SEC Gulf: Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss
SEC West: Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Mizzou, Arkansas
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BIG 10 Pacific: USC, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, UCLA
BIG 10 Atlantic: Ohio State, Penn State, Virginia Tech, Maryland, Rutgers
BIG 10 East-Central: Notre Dame, Michigan, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana
BIG 10 West-Central: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois
SEC Gulf: Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss
SEC West: Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Mizzou, Arkansas
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BIG 10 Pacific: USC, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, UCLA
BIG 10 Atlantic: Ohio State, Penn State, Virginia Tech, Maryland, Rutgers
BIG 10 East-Central: Notre Dame, Michigan, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana
BIG 10 West-Central: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:40 pm to SoulHawg
South Carolina, Clemson, North Carolina, Florida St., Virginia
Southeastern teams, in a southeastern conference?! What a novel idea
Southeastern teams, in a southeastern conference?! What a novel idea
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:10 pm to SoonerKA1999
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There at least needs to be a total roster Salary Cap and a Salary Limit for players. Make it like the NFL, then at least you get a little parity and not just the programs capable of milking their mega donors of mega cash to buy a player.
But if they player doesn't perform, he doesn't get paid.
If it's gonna be "pay for play" then these primadonna's better "perform".
Once again, the schools are not party to the NIL contracts. You can cap the revenue sharing, but not NIL.
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