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Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:36 pm
Greetings brothers. Thought it would be a fun time to take a look at how SEC teams have performed in the NCAA tournament historically.
We can break it down into rounds and what not in a bit, but here are the raw records in the NCAA Tournament... (includes vacated games)
All-time NCAA Tournament Records (sorted by most wins)
1. Kentucky 128-52
2. Florida 46-19
3. Arkansas 42-32
4. LSU 24-24
5. Missouri 22-27
6. Alabama 21-21
7. Tennessee 20-22
8. Texas A&M 13-15
8. Auburn 13-9
10. Mississippi St. 11-10
11. Vanderbilt 10-16
12. South Carolina 8-10
13. Georgia 7-12
14. Ole Miss 5-8
*Side note*
2 of Georgia's 7 wins have been vacated
We can break it down into rounds and what not in a bit, but here are the raw records in the NCAA Tournament... (includes vacated games)
All-time NCAA Tournament Records (sorted by most wins)
1. Kentucky 128-52
2. Florida 46-19
3. Arkansas 42-32
4. LSU 24-24
5. Missouri 22-27
6. Alabama 21-21
7. Tennessee 20-22
8. Texas A&M 13-15
8. Auburn 13-9
10. Mississippi St. 11-10
11. Vanderbilt 10-16
12. South Carolina 8-10
13. Georgia 7-12
14. Ole Miss 5-8
*Side note*
2 of Georgia's 7 wins have been vacated
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:40 pm to Sean Bean
should have been put in order by winning % but cool to know.. I expected Arkansas had less losses than that and its crazy ole miss has played so few games in the dance
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:00 am to Hailstate15
I thought about doing it by Win%...
But, ask and ye shall receive my brother.
1 Kentucky 0.711
2 Florida 0.708
3 Auburn 0.591
4 Arkansas 0.568
5 Mississippi State 0.524
6 LSU 0.500
7 Alabama 0.500
8 Tennessee 0.476
9 Texas A&M 0.464
10 Missouri 0.449
11 South Carolina 0.444
12 Vanderbilt 0.385
13 Ole Miss 0.385
14 Georgia 0.368
But, ask and ye shall receive my brother.
1 Kentucky 0.711
2 Florida 0.708
3 Auburn 0.591
4 Arkansas 0.568
5 Mississippi State 0.524
6 LSU 0.500
7 Alabama 0.500
8 Tennessee 0.476
9 Texas A&M 0.464
10 Missouri 0.449
11 South Carolina 0.444
12 Vanderbilt 0.385
13 Ole Miss 0.385
14 Georgia 0.368
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:03 am to Sean Bean
Thank you sir
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:06 am to Sean Bean
Damn. I thought State was better than that. How abysmal for a school that’s been to a final 4
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:08 am to Sean Bean
Sadly State gave up our bid in 1959, 1961 and 1962. We could potentially have 7-8 more games played. The 1962 team finished 24-1 and ranked third in the country and turned down a bid. How crazy is that looking back on it. That team had a very legit chance to win it all and was denied the chance by our State Government and College Board.
Just sad thinking what if?
Just sad thinking what if?
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:11 am to Godawgs4
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Sadly State gave up our bid in 1959, 1961 and 1962. We could potentially have 7-8 more games played. The 1962 team finished 24-1 and ranked third in the country and turned down a bid. How crazy is that looking back on it. That team had a very legit chance to win it all and was denied the chance by our State Government and College Board.
Oh wow. I did not know that. What was the reasoning behind this?
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:14 am to Sean Bean
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What was the reasoning behind this?
Without looking, I’m guessing integration.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:18 am to DoubleBubbleTrouble
Great point.
I'd prefer not to look it up because I'm interested in great discussion and dialogue here. Very interesting topic.
I'd prefer not to look it up because I'm interested in great discussion and dialogue here. Very interesting topic.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:27 am to Sean Bean
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What was the reasoning behind this?
They needed guys to milk the cows so they turned down the tournament bid so the basketball team could milk cows. At the time, cows were more important than sports in Starkville. Come to think of it cows are probably still more important than most sports in Starkville
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:40 am to Sean Bean
Yep it was integration. Ross Barnett (Who by the way went to Ole Miss for his Bachelor of Laws) would not allow state schools to play against integrated teams.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:42 am to sta4ever
You do realize LSU is a land grant institution as well. I guess you just don’t like beef, produce, or dairy products.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:15 am to Sean Bean
During the fifties, the powers that be, found out that State had actually played teams (during some tournaments) that had black players (gasp) on their roster so they devised a scheme to deny the team from playing any team that black players on their rosters.
Looking back on it, it looks completely ridiculous that that actually happened.
Thankfully in 1963, Coach McCartney and University President Dean Colvard devised plan to evade the court injunction that the State Legislators had filed to prevent the team from leaving.
They made it to E Lansing, MI where we played Loyola Chicago in the “Game of Change “. Loyola won it 61-51 and went on to win the NC that year. It is a great story to learn about.
Looking back on it, it looks completely ridiculous that that actually happened.
Thankfully in 1963, Coach McCartney and University President Dean Colvard devised plan to evade the court injunction that the State Legislators had filed to prevent the team from leaving.
They made it to E Lansing, MI where we played Loyola Chicago in the “Game of Change “. Loyola won it 61-51 and went on to win the NC that year. It is a great story to learn about.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:52 am to Sean Bean
It actually is a great story that was overshadowed in history by Texas Western beating Kentucky for the national title with 5 black players in '66.
As the other poster mentioned, State went 24-1 in '62 and won their third outright SEC title in four years. They were #3 in the nation and were one of the favorites to make the Final Four and possibly win it all. The state of Mississippi had a law that forbade its state institutions from playing integrated teams, so for a fourth straight year, State had to deny a bid to the NCAA Tournament.
Going into the '63 season, Babe McCarthy (head coach) said if he got the opportunity, he was ignoring the law. They weren't quite as good as '62, but they were a Top 10 team and they won a fourth SEC title in five years. The governor said they had to deny and MSU President Dean Colvard (who lost his job over it) supported the coach's plan to sneak out of town.
The starters were bussed to Memphis in the middle of the night, and the reserves were a decoy at the small airport in Starkville. The state police was ordered to stop the team at the Starkville airport (but they were "late"). The team met up in Memphis and flew to East Lansing, Michigan.
State received a bye to the Sweet 16, and played their first game against Loyola-Chicago. Loyola upset MSU, and went on and won the title.
50 years later, MSU and Loyola met to honor the game. Too bad we were awful in 2013, it could have received more publicity.
There is a marker on the Michigan State campus where the game was played
As the other poster mentioned, State went 24-1 in '62 and won their third outright SEC title in four years. They were #3 in the nation and were one of the favorites to make the Final Four and possibly win it all. The state of Mississippi had a law that forbade its state institutions from playing integrated teams, so for a fourth straight year, State had to deny a bid to the NCAA Tournament.
Going into the '63 season, Babe McCarthy (head coach) said if he got the opportunity, he was ignoring the law. They weren't quite as good as '62, but they were a Top 10 team and they won a fourth SEC title in five years. The governor said they had to deny and MSU President Dean Colvard (who lost his job over it) supported the coach's plan to sneak out of town.
The starters were bussed to Memphis in the middle of the night, and the reserves were a decoy at the small airport in Starkville. The state police was ordered to stop the team at the Starkville airport (but they were "late"). The team met up in Memphis and flew to East Lansing, Michigan.
State received a bye to the Sweet 16, and played their first game against Loyola-Chicago. Loyola upset MSU, and went on and won the title.
50 years later, MSU and Loyola met to honor the game. Too bad we were awful in 2013, it could have received more publicity.
There is a marker on the Michigan State campus where the game was played
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:54 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:59 am to Sean Bean
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1 Kentucky 0.711 2 Florida 0.708 3 Auburn 0.591 4 Arkansas 0.568 5 Mississippi State 0.524
Big 5. Only teams above 500
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:00 am to Sean Bean
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wow. I did not know that. What was the reasoning behind this?
The teams State would play were integrated and of course our dumbass state had a problem with it instead of letting a great team be rewarded with postseason play
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:19 am to Sean Bean
You need to break it down and give credit to making the elite eight, final four, etc. Making the tournament today is a lot easier than it used to be.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:59 am to Sean Bean
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1 Kentucky 0.711
2 Florida 0.708
3 Auburn 0.591
4 Arkansas 0.568
5 Mississippi State 0.524
6 LSU 0.500
7 Alabama 0.500
8 Tennessee 0.476
9 Texas A&M 0.464
10 Missouri 0.449
11 South Carolina 0.444
12 Vanderbilt 0.385
13 Ole Miss 0.385
14 Georgia 0.368
This is the proper format for this topic.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:12 am to anc
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anc
That is phenomenal. Thank you for sharing.
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scrooster: This is the proper format for this topic.
I've realized the error in my ways.
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Paul Maul number 37: You need to break it down and give credit to making the elite eight, final four, etc. Making the tournament today is a lot easier than it used to be.
Was planning to do that next week, brother. Just wanted to get some discussion kicked off.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:16 am to Sean Bean
If we were allowd to play in 2003 we'd have at least 3 more wins
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