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re: SEC All Decade Team
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:10 pm to auzach91
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:10 pm to auzach91
quote:You must be a Falcons fan.
In the history of the NFL, only two quarterbacks have ever strung together three or more consecutive seasons with 4,500+ passing yards, 25+ touchdown passes, while maintaining a completion percentage above 66.0. One is Peyton, the other is Matt.
Drew Brees
2013 5162, 39, 68.6%
2014 4952, 33, 69.2%
2015 4870, 32, 68.3%
2016 5208, 37, 70.0%
That's 4 years in a row.
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:13 pm to Scoob
Drew has also went
4620 yards 68.1% in 2010 and
5476 yards and 71.2% in 2011.
4620 yards 68.1% in 2010 and
5476 yards and 71.2% in 2011.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:19 pm to Irons Puppet
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Come on, face the facts. Cam threw for 2854 yards and 30 TDs with a completion rate of 66%. Auburn didn't depend on the passing game that year. Now throw in the fact that he also rushed for 1473 yards and 20 TDs. Both Burrow and him were responsible for 50 TDs, but most of Cams were not due to a talented WR Corp. Burrow is good, but not in the same conversation with Cam.
He can be in the conversation with Cam, but he kind of slots into a different category. Burrow is an elite college QB and will rightfully win the Heisman and be an SEC legend and could well be the better NFL QB, who knows
But Cam Newton is one of the most dominant CFB players/athletes of all time, and IMO that's a very short list that includes perhaps 3-5 dudes in the history of the SEC (Bo, Herschel, etc.).
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:20 pm to John Milner
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stats have changed dramatically since Cam Newton played, and will continue to increase the more our conference becomes like The Big 12
Imagine what someone like McFadden would have done to the modern conference
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:21 pm to Pettifogger
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But Cam Newton is one of the most dominant CFB players
How exactly did Cam dominate in a way that Burrow hasn't?
You say Cam was unstoppable? Who has stopped burrow?
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:22 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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You've got a lot of Bama/LSU bias
Well...yeah. So does the NFL
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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How exactly did Cam dominate in a way that Burrow hasn't?
Both completely torched opposition.
The reason Cam is going to be held in different regard is because people watched him live and said "holy shite how did he do that" in a way that only a handful of players in CFB ever have inspired.
That and the fact he basically had a great season for a QB with an added side of an elite season for an RB all wrapped into one.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:32 pm to Pettifogger
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Imagine what someone like McFadden would have done to the modern conference
Yall really need to take a look at the actual stats before yall keep embarrassing yourselves running with this narrative
I added 2007 numbers to the list (also noticed a very small typo in my spreadsheet and have adjusted the 2019 ppg against accordingly)
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Looking only at stats of SEC teams:
2007 average offense 384.8 average defense 351.7
2010 average offense 399.1 average defense 350.9
2019 average offense 407.6 average defense 353.9
2007 ppg for 30.1 ppg against 23.9
2010 ppg for 30.9 ppg against 23.8
2019 ppg for 29.6 ppg against 22.6
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:33 pm to Pettifogger
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The reason Cam is going to be held in different regard is because people watched him live and said "holy shite how did he do that" in a way that only a handful of players in CFB ever have inspired.
3rd and 17 against UT. Whatever the down and distance was against UGA in the SEC championship. Those are plays the entire nation has taken notice of. Burrow is on whatever short list you try to invent.
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That and the fact he basically had a great season for a QB with an added side of an elite season for an RB all wrapped into one.
And Burrow still outproduced him.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:39 pm to LNCHBOX
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3rd and 17 against UT. Whatever the down and distance was against UGA in the SEC championship. Those are plays the entire nation has taken notice of. Burrow is on whatever short list you try to invent.
I don't even know the play you're referencing, and I'm an avid SEC fan. The idea that the rest of the country does is insane. You've got tunnel vision right now, something we can all relate to because most of us have done the same.
You're taking any differentiation as a slight, and it's silly. I'm right and it has nothing to do with lists I'm inventing and everything to do with pretty simple foresight about how amazing athletes are perceived. The only way to convince you of this is going to be making you look back upon in 10 years.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:47 pm to Pettifogger
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I don't even know the play you're referencing, and I'm an avid SEC fan
Because there have been too many this year too keep up with.
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The idea that the rest of the country does is insane.
It's more insane to act like Burrow hasn't dominated games at the very least equally as much as Cam.
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You've got tunnel vision right now, something we can all relate to because most of us have done the same.
The sporting world as crowned Burrow the dominant force you seem to be unwilling to admit to.
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The only way to convince you of this is going to be making you look back upon in 10 years.
10 years ago what Burrow did this season will still be remembered as absolutely dominating. Are you high?
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:13 pm to LNCHBOX
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The sporting world as crowned Burrow the dominant force you seem to be unwilling to admit to.
This is what I'm talking about.
I've literally expressed nothing but praise for Burrow but you're so insanely sensitive/defensive about it you're crafting a narrative in your head to push back against.
It doesn't exist. He's universally praised and liked.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:16 pm to Pettifogger
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This is what I'm talking about.
Are you just not paying attention to the national media? Stephen fricking A has talked about Burrow on his national show, and he's a clown when it comes to college football. So many more examples it's not worth mentioning
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I've literally expressed nothing but praise for Burrow but you're so insanely sensitive/defensive about it you're crafting a narrative in your head to push back against.
What thread are you reading? That's now what's happening here at all.
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It doesn't exist. He's universally praised and liked.
The narrative I'm "crafting" was directly stated by you that Burrow is not deserving of being on some short list of dominant college players. It's absurd.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:30 pm to LNCHBOX
This thread can go on for 400 pages...but...
This will always be true
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Burrow still outproduced him
This will always be true
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:31 pm to SportTiger1
I also love that no one is bothering to acknowledge the historic trends of ppg and yards and what not.
If they ignore the actual data, maybe it will go away
If they ignore the actual data, maybe it will go away
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:06 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Huh? You mean this one?quote:
3rd and 17 against UT. Whatever the down and distance was against UGA in the SEC championship. Those are plays the entire nation has taken notice of. Burrow is on whatever short list you try to invent.
I don't even know the play you're referencing, and I'm an avid SEC fan.
That put Burrow and LSU on the map.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:41 pm to PhillyFan1994
QB: Cam
Posted on 12/13/19 at 7:37 pm to LNCHBOX
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also love that no one is bothering to acknowledge the historic trends of ppg and yards and what not.
If they ignore the actual data, maybe it will go away
Burrow did it against some very questionable Ds. This wasn't the Bama D of 2010. Auburn's D was probably the best D they played all year and they held him to half of his bloated production. Texas D isn't average and UGAs D got fat on 2nd string QBs and Freshman.
Cam did it against the following ranked Ds- 3,6,11,12,13,21,36.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 7:40 pm to coastrebel
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I just don't see how Burrow makes an all decade team for one good year. Honestly give me Cam over Burrow if we're talking one hit wonders. So why would Joe get the nod here?
Because he’s a real QB and not a glorified running back.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 7:44 pm to ForeverLSU5
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It should be CB: Mo Claiborne CB: Patrick Peterson S: Tyrann Mathieu S: Jamal Adams
And next year you will have to replace one with Stingley.
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