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re: SEC All Decade Team

Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:03 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:03 am to
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But there are LSU fans in here arguing the notion that it's Joe and not close.


Who did that?
Posted by Bandit1980
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:19 am to
How about expanding to the top three at each position and then debate with stats? There are a ton of great ones left off single list.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:23 am to
Just to point something important out: the 2010 season would be the last season of the LAST decade, not the 2010's. A decade or century or millennium actually starts at year "1" not year "0".

Cam Newton did not play in this decade, for example.
Posted by BLyonsTiger
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:28 am to
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Just to point something important out: the 2010 season would be the last season of the LAST decade, not the 2010's. A decade or century or millennium actually starts at year "1" not year "0".

Cam Newton did not play in this decade, for example


Yes, that's why the 90s started in 1991. Cam played in this decade.

This is just splitting hairs. You take Joe if you spread it out more, and you take Cam if you run more read option. Both are all timers.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:29 am to
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Hunter Henry


Or Hunter Renfrow. Anyone who plays 7 years should get consideration.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:31 am to
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TiderNAL
Of all the people on that list that you laugh at....
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:46 am to
I’m an LSU fan and I say no way Lenard Fournette should be first or second team all decade. Yes he did great against weak teams but he disappeared when it counted the most.
Posted by SportTiger1
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:49 am to
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Looking only at stats of SEC teams:

2010 average offense 399.1 average defense 350.9
2019 average offense 407.6 average defense 353.9

2010 ppg for 30.9 ppg against 23.8
2019 ppg for 29.6 ppg against 21.9

Oh snap
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:57 am to
I’d consider stephon Gilmore , he is currently the best corner in the world.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 12:02 pm to
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but he disappeared when it counted the most.


what you meant to say was teams with elite front 7s could stack the box and overwhelm our offensive line and the playcalling ran him straight into it over and over.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 1:37 pm to
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You're giving their filthy defense that year absolutely no credit.


Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 1:39 pm to
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Without that stout, veteran oline Cam wouldn't have been so successful. Do you agree?


One 7th round NFL draft pick (who played for less than two years) on that OL.

ONE.

They were very good at working very well together, but lets not pretend they were anything greater than they were.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 1:42 pm to
Auburn is DT U
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Cam run circles around Burrow

Show us on paper

Y'all can hate it all you want, but burrows season is better and more consistent than cams.


Come on, face the facts. Cam threw for 2854 yards and 30 TDs with a completion rate of 66%. Auburn didn't depend on the passing game that year. Now throw in the fact that he also rushed for 1473 yards and 20 TDs. Both Burrow and him were responsible for 50 TDs, but most of Cams were not due to a talented WR Corp. Burrow is good, but not in the same conversation with Cam.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:37 pm to
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Just to point something important out: the 2010 season would be the last season of the LAST decade, not the 2010's. A decade or century or millennium actually starts at year "1" not year "0".

Cam Newton did not play in this decade, for example.



See Nick Fairley on list.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Burrow is good, but not in the same conversation with Cam.
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Come on, face the facts.
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:44 pm to
no point in going over all of it because the first position of qb you have a guy that had one good year and one SEC title. If you're going with 1 year, Cam Newton would be the choice. If you're going with career, and All Decade would seem to be that, then AJ McCarron produced more 2 national titles. Not sure when Tim Tebow ended his UF career.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:46 pm to
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If you're going with 1 year, Cam Newton would be the choice


No stats to point to that, but go ahead.
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If you're going with career, and All Decade would seem to be that, then AJ McCarron produced more 2 national titles.
McCarron is no where near the QB Burrow is.
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:56 pm to
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No stats to point to that, but go ahead.


stats have changed dramatically since Cam Newton played, and will continue to increase the more our conference becomes like The Big 12
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:56 pm to
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stats have changed dramatically since Cam Newton played


Already disproved that, try again
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and will continue to increase the more our conference becomes like The Big 12

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ETA: Since you didn't read the thread, here are the stats:
quote:

Looking only at stats of SEC teams:

2010 average offense 399.1 average defense 350.9
2019 average offense 407.6 average defense 353.9

2010 ppg for 30.9 ppg against 23.8
2019 ppg for 29.6 ppg against 21.9

So yea, that argument doesn't hold water. The yardage differences are negligible, and the 2010 teams actually scored more and allowed less points on average.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 2:58 pm
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