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re: SEC 7-1 Conference Schedule Model - One permanent opponent

Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Divisions again is the answer.


Then we can have a decent rotation that EVERYBODY would use & know when a certain matchup would occur.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11830 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:42 pm to
There is a simply solution: Two divisions, move to 9 games.

West:
LSU
UT
OU
A&M
Mizzou
Arkansas
MSU
Ole Miss

East:
Bama
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
South Carolina
Georgia

This has good balance and geographically makes sense.

You play 7 divisional games and then non-divisional games each season.

No permanent opponents needed. Only consistent games lost are LSU/Bama and while it is a rivalry, it is not the most important historically to either team and fairly new.

This way you play home and away against all teams in an 8 year period. It's still way too long, but better than what will happen now.

You still get annually:

UT/Aggy
OU/UT
LSU/OM
OM/MSU
Arky/Mizzou


East still has:
Bama/Auburn
Bama/UTk
UTk/UF
UF/UGA
UTk/UGA

Overall, rivalries are kept, and then simply require 1 P4 OOC game with 2 rent-a-wins.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:46 pm to
The obvious solution (geographically) is Ala. & Aub. East & Mizz. West.

Then the debate goes into rotation of the other division.

As to SECCG, why change what wasn’t broken: East winner vrs. West winner?
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Each team plays everyone else in their division and then 2-2-1 from the other divisions if the conference sticks to 8 games. If it goes to 9, then 3-2-2-2


I get the math, but common sense is out the window if somebody thinks 2-2-1 works.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:52 pm to
Yet geographically all over (like Mizz. in the East).
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Sure Fla has been just like us but Ga never has to play Fla in the swamp.


Oh how I wish we WOULD!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:01 pm to
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If a rivalry game means that much to your team and they are not on the schedule that year, schedule it as a non-conference game.


If it’s a CONFERENCE rival, it’s a CONFERENCE GAME.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
849 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:05 pm to
Pods are the only fair solution that could keep most rivalries.

Two pods join every two years to create a temporary division where we get equal schedules and a real SEC championship game.

You'd play home and away at every other school every 6 years.

My pods would be

TX, A&M, OU, Mizzou

LSU, MSU, OM, Ark

UT, Vandy, Bama, AU

UGA, UF, USC, UK

This keeps a lot of rivalries and creates new ones. Matching pods into divisions would create 7 conference games so you still have room to keep even more rivalries while creating a really fair rotating schedule if you do 8/9 conference games.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:09 pm to
However, you have to incorporate rivalries into this, or else you have a 7 game season.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:12 pm to
Swap SC & Tenn. between Ga. & Fl..
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Ditto plus his terrible decision to have the same schedules for back to back years? Unreal.


Am I the only 1 thinking this was done for a big announcement starting in 2026?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:17 pm to
The only FAIR way is to get a rotation & stick with it. This way everybody knows they’ll have easier paths & tougher paths.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:20 pm to
For this, you have to do pods (as you’ve broken down).

& now you have to figure out keeping the UGA/Aub., Fl./FSU, & Fl./Miami annual games.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:22 pm to
Not when we lost the 4 in-state SEC/ACC rivalries.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2055 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:44 pm to
I think they are likely to end up with some type of 3 or 4 permanent rivals in an 8 game schedule. This means teams won't play the entire league in a 4 year span. After all, we've never done something that makes so much sense (neither Hershel Walker nor Bo Jackson ever played LSU.)
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15320 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:21 pm to
9 SEC games, 3 Perms/6 Rotating.

That would still allow for an OOC P5, G5, and FCS game.

I know I am not the only one who has bemoaned what CFB has become, and the payday games to G5/FCS teams are absolutely necessary in the grand scheme of things. The FCS and to a lesser extent G5 schools need those payday games for their entire athletic departments.

Not to mention that those G5/FCS games are usually early games and have cheaper tickets, so it is easier to take kids to those games and get them interested in college sports.

But Disney or someone will have to pay the conference for the increased SEC games. There is no incentive to replace a usually winnable game with another conference game without more money.

While it is convenient as hell to turn on ABC, ESPN, or SECN and keep it on that channel all day, the smart thing to do would be to divide the inventory into two blocks (by home team) and have bidding for each block, plus a separate auction for the SECCG.

With what the SEC brings viewership wise, it isn't like an important game will be on The CW or CBSSN even if multiple networks have the SEC FB TV rights.

I also think that the way SEC basketball (men's and women's) and baseball is, those would bring in enough in a separate package to make it worthwhile. And the B1G has shown that you can have multiple broadcast partners and still have your own conference network.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9687 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:30 pm to
With 16 teams you really need at least a 9 game conference schedule.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6147 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:40 pm to
This season has shown that an open conference creates too much disparity in scheduling. Except UGA, all of the top records this year in the SEC came from bottom half schedules. All of the bottom records came from top half schedules.

Go back to divisions.
You do a 9 game conference schedule. Game 9 is either neutral site or home & home (determined by the teams involved). You play 7 division games, two cross division.
Division + A + b
Division + C + d
Division + E + f
Division + G + h
Flip home / away for the second cycle.
You play everyone in your division yearly. You play everyone in the other division every four years.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3082 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:49 pm to
Hate to lose our annual win vs Arkansas, but I got to admit - I kind of love this arrangement!

Hire this man!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8433 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Flip home / away for the second cycle. You play everyone in your division yearly. You play everyone in the other division every four years.


Everything that makes sense GOES AGAINST whoever’s idea that you have to do a full H/A rotation in 4 years. (My idea keeping all important games) would take 6 years to do a full rotation.)
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