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re: Seahawks' Tom Cable: Spread systems do a huge disservice to offensive players
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:03 am to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:03 am to Henry Jones Jr
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They're just pissed they have to teach the most talented linemen how to read defenses
They should be. There's no way anyone should spend 3-4 years in a premier college football program and not know how to read a defense when they get to the league.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:04 am to Tuscaloosa
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There's no way anyone should spend 3-4 years in a premier college football program and not know how to read a defense when they get to the league.
Why...they do that and can't read a book.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:04 am to Prettyboy Floyd
RG3 went to the Redskins. They have been terrible regardless of the QB. They should draft players that work with their scheme, not the most talented player on the board. Chip Kelly gets this. He adapted hi scheme and won with Nick Foles. These old white guys who are used to those stale Os of the 80s need to go.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:06 am to Tuscaloosa
Well frick, I'm shocked Gus and company haven't stopped using their wildly successful offenses because it takes defensive assessment responsibilities off the shoulders of players.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:07 am to Tuscaloosa
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Most OL Coaches hate the HUNH and the Spread, because it forces them to teach something different than what they were taught.
I don't think that's true. The coaches I've talked to at clinics and stuff don't like it because it allows a team to gloss over fundamentals and still be successful. It doesn't require any technical knowledge of the game in order to be good at what you do.
That's no good when you're trying to teach an NFL offensive linemen how to read a defense and pick up a blitz when you're running a complicated blocking scheme.
The problem is they continue to teach "old school" fundamentals when coaching that style of offense. That is why Smart/Saban is having such a hard time stopping the HUNH Offense. Their Defenses go against "old school" fundamentally taught Offenses in practice everyday, and do not recognize the new style techniques of the HUNH.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:07 am to AUCE05
Would you draft a qb coached by this guy?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:07 am to Herman Frisco
NFL already becoming a Spread System
Sounds like he needs to adjust.
Sounds like he needs to adjust.
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Look at all the teams that have professed an interest in using more of the no-huddle next season. First, there's the Raiders. Head coach Jack Del Rio believes it will allow them to be more diverse on offense and vary their tempo. Then there's the Carolina Panthers. Riverboat Ron Rivera recognized how much more effective Cam Newton was down the stretch of last season when the team went no-huddle, and wants to do it more this year. The Buccaneers are expected to run more no-huddle under offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter.
These stories come on the heels of teams like the Chargers, Colts and Steelers announcing (and mostly following through on) plans to run more no-huddle before last season. Browns coach Mike Pettine called the no-huddle the future of the league. Add all those teams to Peyton Manning's Broncos, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady's New England Patriots and of course, Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles, and you've got the makings of a leaguewide trend toward less huddling that's already reflected in recent data. What's more is that no-huddle plays have historically been -- you guessed it -- more efficient than those run after teams huddle up.
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That sounds a whole lot like the spread, no-huddle offense run by, say, the Patriots, who famously use a one-word system for calling plays when they do go no-huddle that Belichick adopted from college offenses. That certainly makes it easier to communicate the calls, and it again gives Brady more time to read the defense at the line of scrimmage without having to blurt out a mouthful of a play call.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:10 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:09 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Would you draft a qb coached by this guy?
uhhhh
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:09 am to higgs_boson
Why do people still think the spread and HUNH are the same thing? Cable didn't say a thing about the hurry up.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:10 am to Prettyboy Floyd
How's Aaron Murray doing since he was taken in the top 5?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:10 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Would you draft a qb coached by this guy?
My gut says...maybe.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:10 am to higgs_boson
The issue isn't no-huddle philosophy. I think it's the spread, one-read zone scheme that he's taking exception to.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:11 am to Crowknowsbest
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Why do people still think the spread and HUNH are the same thing? Cable didn't say a thing about the hurry up.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:12 am to Crowknowsbest
Did you read the article? It was about spread formation not hurry up, just citing examples from the article.
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Here's a news flash: while some college versions of the spread may make it difficult to evaluate quarterback prospects, a modified version of it is also becoming the preferred pro-style offense, more and more with each passing season.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:12 am to higgs_boson
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NFL already becoming a Spread System
Sounds like he needs to adjust.
There's a difference between running the spread and knowing how to read defenses out of the spread. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady run their offenses out of spread formations. Yes. But they also know how to READ DEFENSES out of those formations, too. They don't look to the sidelines for adjustments and audibles. They make them themselves from the field. The offensive line adjusts their blocking schemes accordingly and do not look to a picture on a board to see which way they need to look for the blitzing linebacker or safety.
NFL coaches like to run the spread because it creates good match ups for their receivers. HOWEVER, they still want the players to know how to read defenses because defenses in the NFL know what they're doing as opposed to most defenses in college.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:15 am to higgs_boson
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Here's a news flash: while some college versions of the spread may make it difficult to evaluate quarterback prospects, a modified version of it is also becoming the preferred pro-style offense, more and more with each passing season.
Key there is modified version of it. They're still making pro-style reads. Lining up in the shotgun with 4 WRs doesn't limit the reads in an NFL offense.
Georgia runs a ton of that stuff, but it's nothing remotely like what Baylor, Oregon, etc. run.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:18 am to Tuscaloosa
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The issue isn't no-huddle philosophy. I think it's the spread, one-read zone scheme that he's taking exception to
I get that, but the cbs article came out this month as well and addressing a lot of that. Again, it is just another guy's opinion.
Is this about the spread or the HUNH? Because if he is speaking to the spread itself, there are so many variations that many are already incorporated in the NFL.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:19 am to Crowknowsbest
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Georgia runs a ton of that stuff,
Looks like we found the players they should be drafting then.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:20 am to piggidyphish
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Looks like we found the players they should be drafting then.
They do draft a lot of our players.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:23 am to Crowknowsbest
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They do draft a lot of our players.
Problem solved then...no?
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