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Scoring Offense/Defense Analysis - Alabama/LSU

Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:25 pm
Since this subject came up, let's go into a bit more detail. (including the Jacksonville State game)

LSU scores 6.1 ppg more than its opponents allow
LSU allows 17.2 ppg fewer than its opponents score

Alabama scores 15.7 ppg more than its opponents allow.
Alabama allows 16.6 ppg fewer than its opponents score.

Factoring the numbers:

Alabama model

Alabama - 31
LSU - 13

LSU model

Alabama - 27
LSU - 21
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:27 pm to
LSU fans are gonna be very upset
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:28 pm to
This post has me very upset
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:28 pm to
So the average of those would be

Bama 29 l5u 17

Bama minus 12

OR Bama -9 factoring 3pts for home field .
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:28 pm to
Since both of your models are predicting an LSU loss can we cancel the game and save embarrassment?
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:29 pm to
Op - you get an F unless you can show your work

You know the drill
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:30 pm to
A couple of aggies touching each other in a Bama/LSU thread when:

a.) The game won't be for another 2 weeks, and

b.) A&M actually has a game this weekend.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:30 pm to
Alabama's defense has scored 56 pts through 8 games, is that factored into those numbers?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:32 pm to
Yes based on available stats this seems to be fair, but the caveat will be if LSU's offense has really made the move to being better under O. If yes, then the prior stats will have minimal insight into the outcome of the game

This should be a good game. I think the only problem I see for LSU is the lack of mobility from etling. Bama has fricking 32 sacks and something like 18 INT's with 12 defensive TD's scored? That is fricking big numbers.

Also, can LSU line find some push to get LF and guide some yards? If Bama shuts down their run it could be a long night for LSU, offensively. However, LSU defense is pretty damn good minus some DT play being suspect at times.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Alabama's defense has scored 56 pts through 8 games, is that factored into those numbers?


I'm sure it's factored in to the " Bama scores xxx more than three opponent's allow" statement. Most scoring averages are total score, not offensive scores.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

b.) A&M actually has a game this weekend.



And what a huge game it is.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72162 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Yes based on available stats this seems to be fair, but the caveat will be if LSU's offense has really made the move to being better under O. If yes, then none of the prior stats mean anything.


Which is a fair point.

But it's also a fair point that Alabama's defense has improved since a September trip to Oxford.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:34 pm to
You should try rerunning those numbers with LSU's last three games, because the first four are now irrelevant.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

You should try rerunning those numbers with LSU's last three games, because the first four are now irrelevant.


Lol.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43791 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Yes based on available stats this seems to be fair, but the caveat will be if LSU's offense has really made the move to being better under O. If yes, then none of the prior stats mean anything.


The prior stats certainly matter. They just include 2 teams that have vastly superior defenses than anything Bama has faced, to this point.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:36 pm to
Last 3 games is LSU offense +11.4
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105393 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:37 pm to
True, which why I gave such high praise to the Bama defense.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Last 3 games is LSU offense +11.4


Which probably means LSU wins the "LSU model."
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Which probably means LSU wins the "LSU model."


Per my quick calculation in my head they lose 27-25 but I could be off.
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