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Schools promising NIL and not delivering on it
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:47 pm
Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
A downvote equals a lie you are telling everyone.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
A downvote equals a lie you are telling everyone.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:49 pm to theballguy
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Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
A downvote equals a lie you are telling everyone.
NIL deals aren't done by the schools, so your entire premise is wrong.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:52 pm to 3down10
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NIL deals aren't done by the schools, so your entire premise is wrong.
On paper. In reality it is pay for play.
That said, screw the players and the schools.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:59 pm to theballguy
It's more like you work at a small bar, bartending, and a guy comes along and tells you that they'll give you a hundred grand if you go work at their favorite bar in their hometown. You make the move, but then the guy reneges and doesn't give you the 100 grand and your stuck.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:04 pm to ukraine_rebel
I liken it more to being a door to door salesman. You hire on with a company (school) and sell their products. They tell you that you can make up to 100k. You have to make the sales to get the money.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:04 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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On paper. In reality it is pay for play.
That said, screw the players and the schools.
Yes, but it's not the schools themselves that are actually paying. They have no control over who gets what NIL money.
If the coaching staff is making offers, that's basically Will Wade levels of dumb. Agents exist for a reason.
This is going to happen a lot. People keep talking about contracts, but the only contracts are between the NIL offer and the person. And if they didn't secure that contract, then it's not on the school.
I think this highlights how the transfer rules help enable the free agency.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:06 pm to theballguy
Then on the flip side you have kids taking NIL and not playing....
aka...Judas "Juice" Wells.
aka...Judas "Juice" Wells.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:07 pm to theballguy
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:09 pm to theballguy
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Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
We have a nice little tool for this called a contract. If the contract is broken you sue for damages.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:10 pm to 3down10
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They have no control over who gets what NIL money.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:10 pm to GamecockUltimate
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aka...Judas "Juice" Wells.
Guess that makes us Lady Gaga
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:11 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Dude’s a pussy.
Dude is playing at UNLV with a 44% completion rate. The market isn't begging for a guy like that.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:17 pm to GamecockUltimate
He’s playing pretty good this season 
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:44 pm to jonnyanony
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It's hard to say, but generally there is a reason why you have agents and other people to handle those things. Negotiating directly can often sour relationships.
Now if you want to treat the boosters as part of the school as the NCAA has for my entire lifetime, then yes. But it doesn't appear that's the case when it comes to NIL.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:46 pm to 3down10
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NIL deals aren't done by the schools
So why do the schools have Collectives? Are they just hoping the donors do what they promised?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:52 pm to SCwTiger
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So why do the schools have Collectives? Are they just hoping the donors do what they promised?
They don't, the collectives are the boosters who have grouped up for a general fund.
It's not really the school, although it is acknowledged to be what the school can offer in NIL, since it's the schools boosters.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:54 pm to theballguy
Generally agree but downvoted for telling me what my downvote means.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:59 pm to 3down10
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It's hard to say, but generally there is a reason why you have agents and other people to handle those things. Negotiating directly can often sour relationships.
Negotiating directly is different than what you said.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:24 pm to jonnyanony
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Negotiating directly is different than what you said.
How so?
I mean this is all about how you are going to treat the boosters. If you want to say they are part of the school, as has been the case in the past when schools would get in trouble for things the boosters did, then ok.
But if the boosters aren't seen as part of the school themselves, which is how they seem to be treating it, then the schools have no control over it.
Do you believe it's the school itself that isn't paying on his NIL? You think the school wouldn't force them to pay it if they could? It's just out of their hands.
And if you want to say that the coaches and staff make it known who they want, then ok. But putting out a wish list is not negotiating for a deal.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:28 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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On paper. In reality it is pay for play.
That said, screw the players and the schools.
That is why there is absolutely no way to control it. The rules and regulations are not written to police the reality. The rules have been written to regulate some fantasy reality instead or actual reality.
You can't settle the situation at all until all parties stop gaslighting and admit what the reality is.
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