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Saturday Down South article: 2019 Tigers vs. 2020 Tide? Joyless Murderball by 3 TDs
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:09 pm
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While is virtually impossible to compare athletic teams from different generations — though we succeeded here by correctly crowning the 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide as the best unit in program history — it is altogether a different debate when comparing teams just a year apart.
Perhaps the most interesting of the many subplots that came out of Monday’s College Football Playoff title game — a 52-24 Alabama win over Ohio State — was the following question: If the 2019 LSU Tigers played the 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide, which team would win?
The answer, dear reader, is simple: Joyless Murderball would win by 3 touchdowns.
Before the entire populace of Baton Rouge (229,493, with about 750,000 teeth spread among them) gets its corndogs in a bunch, you gotta hear the argument out. And we say hear, because, well, reading sometimes is an obstacle. 2020 Alabama would whip 2019 LSU not because 2019 LSU was a pedestrian tackle football team. Oh no, 2019 LSU was mighty good. Dare we say, bordering on great.
But there hasn’t been a college football team like the 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide in recorded history. And luckily for future contenders to the throne, there probably won’t be again.
Breaking it down …
Quarterback: Advantage, LSU
Joe Burrow was a once-in-a-century quarterback who basically never blinked in 2019, winning the Heisman Trophy in runaway fashion by throwing for 5,671 yards and 60 touchdowns against just 6 interceptions. Mac Jones also turned in an unforgettable season, finishing 3rd in the Heisman voting with 4,500 passing yards and 41 touchdowns against just 4 interceptions. But Burrow just meant more — not a lot, but enough — to LSU than Jones did to Alabama.
Running back: Advantage, Alabama
The toughest matchup of them all. Clyde Edwards-Helaire was spectacular at times for LSU in 2019, rushing for 1,414 yards and 16 touchdowns. And Najee Harris? All he did in 2020 was rush for 1,466 yards and 26 touchdowns. Edwards-Helaire also caught 45 passes for 453 yards and a touchdown, while Harris caught 43 passes for 425 yards and 4 touchdowns. You could argue Edwards-Helaire over Harris just as easily as you could argue Harris over Edwards-Helaire. But give Harris 2 more non-conference games to romp around for a half each, and he blows Edwards-Helaire out of the water.
Wide receivers: Advantage, Alabama
DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle.
Do we really need to say more? And when you factor John Metchie into the Tide’s receiving corps, they best the very fine duo of LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson in 2019. Incredibly, the 2019 Tide — with Smith and Waddle teamed with future NFL standouts Henry Ruggs AND Jerry Jeudy to terrorize secondaries — was even better than the 2020 version.
Offensive line: Advantage, Alabama
Tide left tackle Alex Leatherwood, left guard Deonte Brown, center Landon Dickerson, right guard Emil Ekiyor and right tackle Evan Neal were the most dominant offensive line Alabama has ever had — and that’s saying something. Collectively, they won the Joe Moore Award for the best offensive line in the country, and Leatherwood captured the Outland Trophy and Dickerson the Rimington Award. Dickerson and Leatherwood were unanimous All-Americans. Opponents earned only 19 sacks against them. LSU’s offensive line also won the Joe Moore Award in 2019 despite only twice starting the same lineup in back-to-back weeks.
Defensive line: Advantage, push
LSU’s 2019 defensive line gave up 121.5 rushing yards per game, which is a great number. Alabama’s 2020 defensive line? Just 113.1 rushing yards per game, and that doesn’t allow for the non-conference cupcakes that the Tigers had on their schedule last season. Alabama in 2020 piled up 35 sacks in 13 games, while LSU earned 37 sacks in 15 games.
Linebackers: Advantage, LSU
LSU’s Jacob Phillips racked up 56 solo tackles and 113 total stops. Patrick Queen had 37 solo tackles and 12 tackles for loss. K’Lavon Chaisson led the Tigers with 13.5 tackles for loss and 6.5 sacks.
Alabama’s Dylan Moses returned from a knee injury in 2020 make a team-high 36 solo tackles and 76 total stops in 13 games. Christian Harris made 27 solos and a team-high 79 tackles with 4.5 sacks. Christopher Allen collected a team-high 13 tackles for loss along with 6 sacks.
Defensive backs: Advantage, push
Another position of strength on both sides. Alabama’s Patrick Surtain II was named the SEC Defensive Player of the Year and was a unanimous All-American. LSU’s Grant Delpit won the Thorpe Award as the nation’s best defensive back.
Special teams: Advantage, Alabama
After a 2019 in which Alabama arguably became the goalpost-hittingest team in America, Will Reichard simply did not miss. The sophomore made all 14 of his field-goal attempts AND all 84 of his point-after kicks. That’s 98 perfect kicks. Reichard also was a directional-kicking ace on kickoffs, effectively cutting the field in half vertically for the Tide’s kickoff coverage team. LSU’s Cade York made 21 of 27 field-goal attempts and 89 of 93 point-after kicks.
Alabama’s Smith returned 11 punts in 2020, and he took a punt back 84 yards for a TD against Arkansas. Alabama averaged 14.95 yards per punt return. LSU returned 2 punts for TDs in 2019, with Trey Palmer and Micah Baskerville hitting the house, but the Tigers averaged 10.89 yards per return.
Coaching: Advantage, Alabama
From an assistant-coaching perspective, this is essentially a push. LSU passing game coordinator Joe Brady revolutionized the Tigers’ air game and fine-tuned Burrow into a machine that could not be stopped. Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian molded Mac Jones into a game-managing superstar who could quickly interpret whatever a defense presented and find the weakness.
But where this goes the Crimson Tide’s way is under the big headset. Nick Saban’s 7 national titles — 6 at Alabama in 14 years — firmly plants him atop the summit of the sport. Ed Orgeron was fired at Ole Miss and Southern Cal before landing at LSU with what is looking more and more like a 1-hit wonder offense.
Intangibles: Advantage, Alabama
LSU’s 2019 effort was legendary, without question. Scoring 48.4 points per game and allowing opponents 21.87 points per game is a season for the record books. But the Tigers did it with Georgia Southern and Northwestern State on the early-season slate.
Alabama piled up 48.46 points and allowed 19.38 points in an all-SEC regular season and run to the CFP title. No cupcakes on the rotation, and the Tide didn’t even get SEC East lightweights South Carolina and Vanderbilt. The Tide got it done in unquestionably the most trying season since World War II, as COVID-19 and opt-outs ravaged teams from coast to coast. Alabama didn’t have a single superstar miss a snap with COVID-19, and they had injured players like Waddle and Dickerson pushing to opt IN for the national championship game.
Add it all up and the Alabama Death Star wins going away. Oh sure, Burrow and Co. would keep it close for a half and maybe more. But just as Alabama beat down all their opponents in 2020, eventually, the Tide would get their way.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:11 pm to TideSaint
Aren’t you guy who was begging on the Alabama board for a graphic comparing the two teams just seconds after last Monday game?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:11 pm to TideSaint
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2020 Alabama would whip 2019 LSU not because 2019 LSU was a pedestrian tackle football team. Oh no, 2019 LSU was mighty good. Dare we say, bordering on great.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:13 pm to TideSaint
My goodness bro. You guys are so triggered that's it's hilarious yet sad, please don't stop
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:17 pm to GCTiger11
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Aren’t you guy who was begging on the Alabama board for a graphic comparing the two teams just seconds after last Monday game?
For Alabama fans, it's not good enough for them to win a national championship. They have to be told that their national championship is better than LSU's. It doesn't even need to be true, they just need to be told that it's better.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:19 pm to TigerLunatik
Some of the comments in the article from non-LSU fans.
Florida fans, South Carolina fans, MS State fans as quoted:
So you got some dickgobbling Alabama fanboy to feed into your insecurity and rushed to post it here?
Florida fans, South Carolina fans, MS State fans as quoted:
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The unnecessary shots at LSU and their fans in the first few paragraphs lost me. 2020 Alabama very well may be better than 2019 LSU but Dave lost all credibility after those first few lines, sounds more like a fan boy posting on a message board than an actual journalist.
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This is a pretty ridiculous take.
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I stopped reading after the writer went out of his way to repeatedly make fun of lsu fans. 2019 LSU > 2020 TIDE.
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“Before the entire populace of Baton Rouge (229,493, with about 750,000 teeth spread among them) gets its corndogs in a bunch, you gotta hear the argument out. And we say hear, because, well, reading sometimes is an obstacle.”
This is how Saturday Down South reports news articles to multiple fan bases? Insulting a fan base? Being elite because of some APSE national award crap?
This article and David Wasson makes the SDS brand look really bad. Talk about Cancel someone. David Wasson needs to be canceled.
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This is the most condescending article you could ever write. It epitomizes why people hate Bama. It’s because of their obnoxious fans and the sportswriters that follow them. Burrow doesn’t beat Mac by much huh? Unreal.
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I stopped reading after the writer went out of his way to repeatedly make fun of lsu fans. 2019 LSU > 2020 TIDE.
So you got some dickgobbling Alabama fanboy to feed into your insecurity and rushed to post it here?
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:19 pm to wadewilson
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For LSU fans, it wasn’t good enough for them to win a national championship. They had to be told that their national championship was better than any of Alabama’s. It doesn't even need to be true, they just need to be told that it's better.
FIFY.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:20 pm to wadewilson
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For LSU fans, it's not good enough for them to win a national championship. They have to tell everyone that their national championship is better than anyone else’s. It doesn't even need to be true, they just tell you that it's better.
Fixed.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:22 pm to GCTiger11
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Aren’t you guy who was begging on the Alabama board for a graphic comparing the two teams just seconds after last Monday game?
Begging to see something someone said they were making a week before the title game?
Okay.
At least you've accepted 2020 Alabama > 2019 LSU and have now started coping by focusing on this instead.
Good job!!
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:22 pm to BillyBoy22
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My goodness bro. You guys are so triggered that's it's hilarious yet sad, please don't stop
Oh look, it's Billy.
I thought you said you had to go, Billy?
Why did you lie?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:23 pm to wadewilson
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For Alabama fans, it's not good enough for them to win a national championship. They have to be told that their national championship is better than LSU's. It doesn't even need to be true, they just need to be told that it's better.
Humiliating LSU fans is part of the celebratory process.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:24 pm to GCTiger11
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So you got some dickgobbling Alabama fanboy to feed into your insecurity and rushed to post it here?
Where are the Florida, South Carolina and Ole Miss responses?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:27 pm to TideSaint
quote:so SideTaint thinks he owns the threads in the forum again.
I thought you said you had to go, Billy?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:29 pm to TideSaint
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Begging to see something someone said they were making a week before the title game?
Asking for “a” graphic (notice not “the” graphic which I would assume you would say if this was a predetermined graphic). Asking it to be professional. You don’t have to make shite up, little man.
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At least you've accepted 2020 Alabama > 2019 LSU and have now started coping by focusing on this instead.
How’d you come to that conclusion, retard? All I asked if you were the fan who asked for a graphic comparing his team to another LSU team immediately after the NC. When did I say one team is better than the other?
Are you just typing random bullshite bc even you realize spending your NC-winning night asking for pretty graphics to “get back” at LSU fans is somewhat cringe? Yes I believe so
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:29 pm to dstone12
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so SideTaint thinks he owns the threads in the forum again.
Billy said he had to go.
He didn't.
Therefore, he lied.
Why are you bringing me into his misleading act of cowardice?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:31 pm to TideSaint
Ok now we're arguing over a poster saying he had to leave and not leaving. I think this conversation has run it's course.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:31 pm to GCTiger11
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Asking for “a” graphic (notice not “the” graphic which I would assume you would say if this was a predetermined graphic). Asking it to be professional. You don’t have to make shite up, little man.
Someone on our board asked a question, I responded. So?
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How’d you come to that conclusion, retard?
You certainly seem content with the article stating 2020 Alabama would crush 2019 LSU by three TDs.
But TideSaint answered a question on the Alabama board!!!?!!
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:33 pm to TigerLunatik
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I think this conversation has run it's course.
I agree.
When LSU fans can't argue the facts laid before them and instead focus on meaningless stuff like this you know they have accepted defeat.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:37 pm to TideSaint
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You certainly seem content with the article stating 2020 Alabama would crush 2019 LSU by three TD
I quoted the comments of fans of other schools who themselves said they couldn’t even take the article seriously because of the fan-boy overtone
I asked you why’d your rush here to post an article by an Alabama fanboy?
In what ways did either of those things make me seem content with the article or acknowledge 2020 Bama > 2019 LSU? If anything, I was doing quite the opposite.
I feel like your arms are flailing and you don’t have the brain capacity for an actual clever retort so you’re basically making shite up because that’s easier for low IQ people as yourself.
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