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re: Sadly, the Marshall situation could easily happen to any SEC team
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:48 pm to Tackle74
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:48 pm to Tackle74
You can’t make someone sign a contract
If one school or conference tries to instill things that players don’t want, guess where the top talent goes? Another team or conference that isn’t stupid
If one school or conference tries to instill things that players don’t want, guess where the top talent goes? Another team or conference that isn’t stupid
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 2:49 pm
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:25 pm to Omahawgs15
In the SEC if you opt out of bowls or are ineligible, don’t you forfeit bowl money?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:32 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:Well, the NCAA, and all its member schools, used to have an agreement on rules and enforcement ...
NCAA has no power to do anything. The only way to fix it is a break off league that can come to some type of agreement on rules and enforcement.
NCAA literally has no ability to enforce anything at this point.
Until the SEC schools systematically challenged said rules and enforcement ... and the courts agreed to the challenges, that there can be no rules and therefore, no enforcement was necessary.
Rules and enforcement? In the SEC?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:32 pm to Vol92
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hey don’t sign those type of contracts and until they do, it is illegal
Why would any player sign a contract that limits their ability of free movement? Watch what happens to the first team that tries it
whether or not someone would sign a contract that limits their movement and whether or not it is illegal are two, separate things. You're essentially talking about a non-compete clause. Non-competes are in plenty of legally enforceable contracts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:42 pm to EatsleepdrinkLSU
The transfer window should be one, from June 1st to June 30th every year.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:46 pm to volinktown
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The transfer window should be one, from June 1st to June 30th every year.
You cannot tell college students that they cannot transfer at the end of a semester. How does even suggesting that make any sense to you?
Imagine if TN tried to tell a normal student that they cannot transfer after the fall semester and had to wait till summer. It’s preposterous, right? They have no right to do it, just like they have no right to do so to student athletes
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:48 pm to lsufball19
What in the world does what you just said have to do with anything?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:44 pm to Vol92
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You cannot tell college students that they cannot transfer at the end of a semester.
I understand what you are saying, but when you add NIL and the transfer portal into the equation, you are no longer talking about a normal college student. The only way I can see this continuing to exist is to have signed contracts with players that state the amount going to be paid and over a certain period of time.
What's happening to Marshall should never be allowed to happen again. Not only did the Thundering Herd have a great season, they won a conference title in a decent conference and now they don't even have enough players to participate in a bowl game. Sadly, it robbed the players that stayed loyal to the program, the fans that supported them all season long and they also will lose the bowl money as a result.
I don't care what team you root for, this is not acceptable!
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:49 pm to EatsleepdrinkLSU
I got into a bit of a spat with someone on a CFB blog about the portal and the abuse and the times it is open. Need to go back to one time for the portal to be open. Not when games are still being played. He said at least teams like Indiana got better this year. I said look at Marshall. They had to turn down a bowl game because of the bullshite. It’s taken on a mind of its own.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:06 pm to EatsleepdrinkLSU
No..
In the eyes of the law, a normal college student is exactly what you are looking at.
You cannot impose restrictions on student athletes that are not imposed on normal students. That is illegal
Blame their admin then, they didn’t renew the contract of their HC and he left. That what brought about all of this for them. It’s their own incompetence
In the eyes of the law, a normal college student is exactly what you are looking at.
You cannot impose restrictions on student athletes that are not imposed on normal students. That is illegal
Blame their admin then, they didn’t renew the contract of their HC and he left. That what brought about all of this for them. It’s their own incompetence
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:09 pm to Taurus 357
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got into a bit of a spat with someone on a CFB blog about the portal and the abuse and the times it is open. Need to go back to one time for the portal to be open.
How is this so hard to understand for people? THAT WOULD BE ILLEGALLLL
You cannot impose restrictions on transfers, the NCAA already lost this battle in court and has conceded this fact
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:13 pm to Vol92
They had a transfer portal designed because of what exactly we are seeing now. If the adults in the courtrooms can’t come up with a solution, the answer shouldn’t be “oh well… frick it. Nothing to see here.” You can’t let kids under a scholarship dictate rules to the institution. It sets a terrible precedent
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:15 pm to Taurus 357
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They had a transfer portal designed because of what exactly we are seeing now. If the adults in the courtrooms can’t come up with a solution, the answer shouldn’t be “oh well… frick it. Nothing to see here.” You can’t let kids under a scholarship dictate rules to the institution. It sets a terrible precedent
No goofball, it sets a legal precedent
Just because you don’t like something, that doesn’t mean you get to violate other people's rights
Love to see your thoughts if your boss told you that you can’t quit and your wage is being frozen for the next decade. It would set a great precedent for the company
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:17 pm to Vol92
Okay goofball. So then why are there laws which people must follow? Social norms? Maybe just challenge all that in court too, huh?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:19 pm to Taurus 357
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Okay goofball. So then why are there laws which people must follow? Social norms? Maybe just challenge all that in court too, huh?
Ohh boy, you are in way over your head here. I suggest you just stop thinking about these things and focus on whatever your special interests are
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:23 pm to EatsleepdrinkLSU
simple fix. make NIL contracts multiple year deals. leave before your contract is up and there's financial penalties.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:29 pm to ljhog
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simple fix. make NIL contracts multiple year deals. leave before your contract is up and there's financial penalties.
That is illegal and absolutely not how NIL works
NIL is a contract between an athlete and another party. It is illegal for a 3rd party to attempt to restrict, influence or burden that agreement
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:01 pm to Vol92
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You cannot impose restrictions on student athletes that are not imposed on normal students. That is illegal
In theory, I understand what you're saying, but student athletes have been treated differently for many, many years. I feel confident in saying regular students are not walking around with $500,000 NIL deals and other perks.
According Al overview, student athletes typically receive benefits like athletic scholarships, dedicated academic support with tutors and advisors, access to specialized training facilities, sports medicine services, team uniforms and equipment, travel opportunities for competitions, and sometimes accommodations for missed classes due to athletic commitments, which are not usually available to regular students to the same extent.
I can confirm that in all my years as an undergrad and grad student, I never received any of those perks!
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:03 pm to EatsleepdrinkLSU
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because players shouldn't be allowed to just jump ship without some type of repercussion.
Then neither should coaches.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:04 pm to bengalbait
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Any player that voluntarily enters the transfer portal should be required to sit out a complete season and lose that year of eligibility.
Then coaches who take other jobs should also have to sit out a year before being able to coach again.
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