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re: Saban-Jimbo could be best SEC coaching rivalry ever

Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:03 am to
So if a team hasn’t won in the past then they can’t be good now. How did Florida do it in the 90s-00s? Clemson the last decade? Why aren’t Harvard & Yale still in the mix?
Posted by bfpri
Member since Jul 2014
707 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:09 am to
First of all great coaches on Saban Meyer level don't go have a losing record in conference with top three talent . Hell they also don't have multiple seasons of 3 4 losses in a crappy conference. Jimbo is just another Les miles . Second Jimbo is driving a Camry . No matter how fast he goes it will never beat a Ferrari . Aggy will always be aggy . They have never won a NC after world war 2 and they never will . To be honest you don't even quality to be our little brother because at least the swamp trash has won a NC.

You guys will NEVER be relevant. I doubt Jumbo will even have a season where he wins 11 games. If he couldn't do it at FSU without Winston then he will never do it at Aggy. I will enjoy the free win we have every year.

But keep staying delusional it's what aggy does best
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:13 am to
He won the ACC and 12 games in ‘12 without Winston.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Saban will retire in 3 years and Jimbo will have moved on. Bama is all-world and TAMU is bottom tier of the West. This will never be a coaching rivalry.


This.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63040 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:52 am to
I’ll also never understand why developing a great QB and then winning with him is a strike against a coach
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

I’ll also never understand why developing a great QB and then winning with him is a strike against a coach

Neither will this guy:



...who won with this guy:

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

You must not have heard, Jimbo got a 10 year contract. He isn’t moving on in 3 years.


Don't be so sure. A decade is a long time to endure a constant stream of 3 & 4 loss seasons.

You'll probably decide to cut your losses way before the contract ends.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:13 pm to
Do you think a Saban coached/recruited team would have had the season of Jimbo's final year at FSU? It's laughable you hyphenated Saban's name to Jimbo's.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63040 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:14 pm to
Lol if you think those situations and players are remotely similar prob best to leave the football talk to us sport
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:14 pm to
He won't for sure be here the full 10 years, but the minimum barring a scandal is four years.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Lol if you think those situations and players are remotely similar

Just responding to...

quote:

I’ll also never understand why developing a great QB and then winning with him is a strike against a coach


But keep on not understanding, sporto, after all, you're an aggie, it's what you do.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:33 pm to
Do Manuel & Ponder count for or against him? I’m having trouble keeping up with your nonsense.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8565 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:26 pm to
Solid, well thought post! Aggy will never be FSU like. Fran ran from Bama to Aggy, we saw how that played out!
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47791 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

They competed on the national stage in 2013/2014


A&M fans are high if they think he'll ever have a team there with the same talent level as 2013 FSU. That was a perfect storm and maybe 10 teams in the history of the sport could match their talent level.

I think Fisher will be solid at A&M, but expecting that kind of production again is a bit unrealistic.

ETA: Yes, I know I responded to an Alabama fan. It was more of a general statement.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:23 pm to
Someone bookmark this thread and we can revisit it in 3 years.

Just one mans opinion but I think in 3 years Aggies will be hell on wheels.
No reason for them not to be.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:24 pm to
Aggies + Jimbo the real deal
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Settle down


No.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:30 pm to
Wow ...more than ever saban is surrounded and caught in a trap and can't get out
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

So if a team hasn’t won in the past then they can’t be good now.


Pretty much, yes.

In Post-WW2 College football, the elite programs are pretty much set and its very hard for a new program to break in and actually win a Championship. If you go back to WW2 and take all the major National Champions of the polling era, the last time we saw a "new" National Championship that hadn't previously won a Title since WW2 was Florida in 1996.

In other words, its been 23 year since we had a new Post-WW2 National Champion. Obviously that means its not very common.

Prior to that, it was Florida State in 1993.

The only era in which we actually saw a rash of "new" Post WW2 National Champions crowned was in the year immediately following scholarship limitations being put into place. Limiting the number of scholarships a program could give out brought on a short-lived era of newfound parity in which there were quite a few "new" Post-WW2 Champs crowned:

1980- Georgia
1981- Clemson
1982- Penn State
1983- Miami
1984- BYU

1990- Colorado
1990- Georgia Tech
1991- Washington

We saw 8 "new" Post-WW2 National Champs crowned during just a 12-year period. This was college football grappling with its new parity caused by scholarship limitations.

Prior to Georgia winning the title in 1980, there had only been one "new" National Champ crowned during the previous 16 seasons... that was Nebraska in 1970.

All this is to say, its very difficult for any team to break the mold and win a title.... Oregon (2010/2014) and Virginia Tech (1999) are the only two programs without a Post WW2 NC to even make it to a title game in the last 20 years.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:20 pm to
That's ~ 11 teams in ~ 75 years so a new team wins a championship every 7 years on average. It may have mainly happened in a smaller window of time, but that doesn't mean it can't happen for someone else.
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