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re: Rough week for Aggy continues, WSJ publishes list of most valuable CFB programs

Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Wes225
Member since Jan 2017
727 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:39 pm to
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No, we are first in the SEC:

That's total AD not just football.
Posted by Agseds
Member since Mar 2018
343 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:41 pm to
Now that makes no sense, there's absolutely no way that we make half of our revenue from other sports.

Most schools have to use their football programs to supply money to their other sports because they lose money.
Posted by Wes225
Member since Jan 2017
727 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:45 pm to
The list you provided includes all operating revenues from the athletic department and the list is also from 2016-2017.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:46 pm to
The Aggies like it rough and “Longhorned”.

Their women do to!

Flee UT and get rammed harder by Bama and LSU! Look how happy they are!


Mediocre is as mediocre does!
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:46 pm to
Here, let me help you. Your revenues have been inflated because of the capital campaign to pay off facilities debt.

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While the report shows Texas A&M with about $147 million in operating expenses for 2017, the school also had just under $67 million in athletics-related capital expenditures during the year.

When schools borrow money to build or refurbish athletics facilities, the NCAA currently requires them to count annual debt service payments as an operational expense. Cash spent on facilities is supposed to be reported separately from annual operating expenses.

As a result, contributions to Texas A&M’s athletics program that were made in 2017 and spent on facilities projects that year are being reported as operating revenue while most of the corresponding spending on those projects is not being reported as an annual operating expense.

The Texas A&M athletics department’s chief financial officer, Jeff Toole, told USA TODAY Sports that when the facilities-related contributions are removed from consideration for 2017, “we are basically break-even, maybe a little less than break-even, for the year.” If Texas A&M’s capital spending for 2017 is added to its operational spending for the year, the total is just over $213.5 million. Toole noted that revenues for the next two years will probably resemble that of 2017 but then may start to "normalize a little bit" as he put it.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:47 pm to
Here is the top 50 with revenue and comparison to last year. Just copying the ones I put in the thread in MSB





Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:52 pm to
"Brewer analyzes each program's revenues and expenses and made cash-flow adjustments, risk assessments and growth projections to calculate what a college team would be worth on the open market, if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise."

FYI, the majority of Kyle Field was financed thru 30 year bonds.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5006 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:55 pm to
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WestCoastAg


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LSUs obsession with A&M is pretty remarkable if I am just being honest


your post history suggests an LSU fan railed your wife in front of you while you had to hold his beer.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:59 pm to
Those are football-only numbers.

The TEXAS football program standing alone makes $17 million more than the entire aggy athletics department.

This is based on the aggy financial officer above stating that excluding paying off facility debt, aggy breaks even or loses a little on expenses of $147 million for the entire athletics department (versus $164 million in revenue solely accrued by the TEXAS football program).
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Does this include the value of the LSU fans' heads we live in?

Clearly not. It's multi-trillion dollar realty.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:04 pm to
I wish they'd rank based on profit. It's not hard to do.

LINK
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24992 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:05 pm to
Damn, and almost $100M behind the next SEC program.

Aggy poorz.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:08 pm to
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I wish they'd rank based on profit. It's not hard to do.

Wrong. Go read my first post. Contributions to pay off debt are counted as revenue but not expenses, thus inflating "profit."

See: aggy.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19515 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:17 pm to
Their master is #3. That’s a little consolation.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:26 pm to
Further, I am not convinced the totality of those aggy contributions are from aggy donors.

In my opinion, a great deal of that is proceeds from bond sales (aggy financed the majority of its stadium upgrade through 30-year bonded indebtedness, as has already been pointed out).

Those bond-sale proceeds are deposited into aggy accounts as revenue, then paid to the contractors -- but those expenses are not counted, inflating "profit."

So a great deal of this aggy revenue the fake army soldiers have been crowing about, is actually debt.

What do you think, Old Sarge?
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:33 pm to
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I wish they'd rank based on profit. It's not hard to do.



So a non profit being ranked by profitability?
Posted by GeauxBoi
San Diego
Member since Dec 2017
531 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:59 pm to
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No, we are first in the SEC:


Artists clearly states that it’s 2016-2017 finances
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25315 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:15 pm to
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12. Aggy ($541 million)
That's ALOT of jizz jars.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29064 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:19 pm to
Bama or A&M. Can't decide who had the worst night.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29064 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:21 pm to
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A&Ms obsession with LSU is pretty remarkable if I am just being honest


Fixed it for ya. No need to be angry when LSU just calls you guys out for your stupidity. You ought to be used to that.
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