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re: Regarding the "screw job" by the refs, did anyone actually hear or read what Kirby said?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:54 am to atlanta917
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:54 am to atlanta917
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No screw job. Just one bad PI call.
I wouldn't even call it a bad call. Smith was running his route, the defender had his hands on him, playing the receiver and not the ball while the ball was in the air, disrupting Smith's route to the ball and his attempt to catch it. Stop this video at the 20:05 mark and it's pretty clear. Defender isn't even looking for the ball.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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There was no screw job.
There was one bad PI call.
I think it's going to get called every single time in that situation.
I wouldn't have complained if it wasn't called is about the only thing I can say about it. But on 3rd down, in the endzone you can't be doing that. Especially when the ball goes behind the defender and he's pushing the receiver in the other direction while the ball is in the air.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:04 pm to Mithridates6
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When they hesitated to finally call Bama offsides and actually reviewed Georgia's third TD, you could tell the refs were on a mission and would not let Bama lose that game
Referees are human, under immense amounts of pressure, and are going to make mistakes.
But to believe in a consistent conspiracy that entire crews purposefully intend to affect the outcome of the games every week is kind of a reach.
As an aside, one thing that's often overlooked is how much the coaching staffs can draw attention to things that the refs might not even be seeing, or are overlooking. If #65 has his hand under someone's shoulder pads during a pass block, and the coaches keep screaming about it, odds are that the ref will eventually call it. Just because he eventually gets caught that one time on a big play doesn't mean the refs are biased, and it doesn't mean he also didn't get away with it 10 times before that, which led up to that big play.
Point is, sometimes things don't get noticed or called until later in the game, and good coaching staffs will ride the refs to their advantage when it matters.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:11 pm to paperwasp
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You've got to step up into the pocket in our league and be able to make throws down the field
That is the fallacy with Bennett in our offense; he's not tall enough to see over the big linemen so he should be rolling out away from the linemen on most downs.
Bennett is adequate against lesser teams but he will never be an effective pocket passer against teams like Bama.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Defender isn't even looking for the ball.
Not a requirement in college.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:20 pm to paperwasp
Am I missing something? I don't see a single thread by a Georgia poster complaining about the refs. At least on the first page. 
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:27 pm to elposter
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So calling something an int that "everyone knows" hit the ground is not a bad call. Got it.
You can't go by "knowing" as in I feel certain. You have to go by clear evidence to ovrturn a call on the field.
You knew that, right? Tell us you knew that.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:27 pm to paperwasp
You can't lose by 3 scores and then blame the refs.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:34 pm to DawgsLife
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You can't go by "knowing" as in I feel certain. You have to go by clear evidence to ovrturn a call on the field.
You knew that, right? Tell us you knew that.
Take it up with your compatriot. He is the one that said everyone knew the ball hit the ground. Ref on the field missed a close call, replay went with it. Happens all the time.
Bad/missed calls happen a lot in any given game. My point was that human nature makes us focus on/remember the ones that go against us and not acknowledge/forget the ones that go for us. This phenomenon is exacerbated when your team loses the game.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:38 pm to olddawg26
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Perhaps the most pivotal play in the game. It wasn’t a random PI, that was a game changing time to go up by 10 instead of 6.
Eh. I’d argue a more compelling theme of the game was going away from our running game when were averaging nearly 6 yards a carry to let our 5’10 QB air it out. We don’t win this game even if we make better play calls but I guarantee it’s closer than 41-24.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:40 pm to olddawg26
So how many more did you score after that?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:43 pm to paperwasp
The only really bad call was the call against Stokes on 3rd down when Bama was deep in UGA territory @ 27-24. I don't think Stokes did anything wrong and if that play is PI, then idk how CBs are supposed to play defense on that sort of play. Outside of that the game was pretty well-officiated.
Even if the refs don't call that penalty and put Bama at 1st and goal, I still think UGA loses -- there's no way to pin that loss on that particular call. Sure, Bama would have kicked a fg so it would have been 30-24 instead of 34-24 -- one possession vs two possession game. But I think Bama would still have dominated the 4th q and won comfortably -- if they would have needed to score more, then they likely would have. Their offense was operating too efficiently compared to UGA's for us to stay in that game.
Even if the refs don't call that penalty and put Bama at 1st and goal, I still think UGA loses -- there's no way to pin that loss on that particular call. Sure, Bama would have kicked a fg so it would have been 30-24 instead of 34-24 -- one possession vs two possession game. But I think Bama would still have dominated the 4th q and won comfortably -- if they would have needed to score more, then they likely would have. Their offense was operating too efficiently compared to UGA's for us to stay in that game.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:04 pm to elposter
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Take it up with your compatriot. He is the one that said everyone knew the ball hit the ground.
I'm pretty sure most people did. I have no argumnt there. but the play on the field was called. In order to reverse the call you have to have indisputable evidence. While we are certain that it hit the ground the replay did not have an angle that backed it up.
The Georgia fan was merely saying that "Yeah. We agree that it most likely hit the ground, but the angles did not show it."
quote:You do realize that the call we are all discussing went against Alabama, right? We, Georgia fans, are saying you are right. The call should have gone your way, but it did not because there was not indisputable evidence.
Bad/missed calls happen a lot in any given game. My point was that human nature makes us focus on/remember the ones that go against us and not acknowledge/forget the ones that go for us. This phenomenon is exacerbated when your team loses the game.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:19 pm to paperwasp
These are not stats for a team getting preferential treatment by refs, it's the opposite. Refs are not calling stuff on bamas opponents. Remember that Clemson game where Clemson ran 99 offensive plays against the best defensive line probably in college history and didn't get a single penalty?
Alabama's penalty rankings
2020 29th
2019 114th
2018 65th
2017 21st
2016 25th
2015 67th
2014 22nd
2013 28th
2012 7th
Opponent penalties against Bama
2020 54th
2019 86th
2018 82nd
2017 130th
2016 128th
2015 102nd
2014 123rd
2013 89th
2012 108th
Alabama's penalty rankings
2020 29th
2019 114th
2018 65th
2017 21st
2016 25th
2015 67th
2014 22nd
2013 28th
2012 7th
Opponent penalties against Bama
2020 54th
2019 86th
2018 82nd
2017 130th
2016 128th
2015 102nd
2014 123rd
2013 89th
2012 108th
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:22 pm to narddogg81
The only people I see saying Alabama got preferential treatment are Alabama fans. In fairness they are all saying that Georgia fans are saying it, but, well......where are we saying it?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:26 pm to Lemonpuppy
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Looks like Kirby is more mature than UGAs fan base
Actually most of the whining is coming from AU and LSU fans.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:27 pm to elposter
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Actually this like every other game in the history of football had plenty of iffy calls and no calls. People just remember the stuff that breaks against them and forget the stuff that breaks "for" them. Human nature.
Exactly. I mean, if Bama had lost, I might be inclined to draw circles on a bunch of images showing Will Anderson being held to prevent a sack.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:36 pm to TS1926
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Actually most of the whining is coming from AU and LSU fans.
That's what i don't understand. All the Alabama fans are riding Georgia fans about whining, but we are not whining. We are agreeing that Alabama simply played better and won the game.
I have been amazed at how often people read a post but never bother to look at a posters team affiliation.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:38 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:43 pm to paperwasp
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An Open Letter To The Southeastern Conference Officials
So, you find one random fan?
Would you like for me to find one random Alabama fan to start threads about and act like they represent the entire Alabama fan base?
Buck up guy. It is one random fan after a loss we felt we had a shot at winning.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 2:43 pm
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