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re: Realignment? The talks are starting again

Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by InfernoOrangeSS
Pelham, AL
Member since Mar 2014
815 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:03 pm to
I would love to see Miami join the conference. I don't know how feasible is, but I think it would be great.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:09 pm to
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I feel it's only a matter of time before the big schools with plenty of $$$ split from everyone else, eventually leading to a ~50 school playoff division.




This has been my feeling for a while now except with 64 teams. This would almost be a semi-pro league of football, could only play teams in the league equalizing the playing field for playoff berths. If this happens the need for big conferences would be diminished. Teams with closer regional affiliation would form smaller divisions (8), and would have more freedom to schedule throughout the league without the worry of one or two losses killing your season as long as they won their division.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:14 pm to
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The OU President Boren is pissed. Just last night he made his demands clear in interview. Go to 12 teams, convert LHN into b12 network, and have b12 championship game. He said all 3 must happen right away


He's 100% right about every single one of those issues.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:17 pm to
doubt it
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Do you think that this will start another domino effect or that it will just be a Big XII move (if they move at all)?


Probably nothing big will happen, with the possible exceptions of Notre Dame (ACC, most likely) and/or BYU (Big XII if anything) making a move. The recent rule change on conference championship games will remove any pressure on the Big XII to expand, though.

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Are the supposed iron clad contractual agreements signed by a lot of conferences and schools post-2011 enough to stop more shifts?


They will be enough to stop any major programs from switching conferences, but you could see some jostling among the mid-majors and the above ND and BYU possibilities. If ND goes to ACC and/or BYU goes to Big XII, those conferences may also add another team to keep an even number, but it would be a team from a mid-major conference. The Power 5 are probably through raiding each other for the foreseeable future.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:26 pm to
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I would love to see Miami join the conference. I don't know how feasible is, but I think it would be great.

Shut up, no one wants to hear about matchups and what teams you would actually enjoy watching your team play. It's about footprints and money. You'll watch your team play East Carolina University and like it.

Why do you people insist on continuing to think that college football is about entertainment?
Posted by gatorsownfsu81
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
801 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:32 pm to
One thing I would like to see out of expansion.... Is to add whoever we need to add to get bama and auburn to the east so we can stop having permanent cross overs, then bama-tenn and au-uga are divisional games, and as a added bonus we'd get Au-UF and Au-tenn back on a yearly basis.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3328 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:36 pm to
I would much rather have UVA than VA Tech. They have great baseball and basketball programs and great academic program, but I realize football is king, and VA Tech wins that category. I feel like UVA fits in better culturally as well.
Posted by Plaid Palace
Member since Jan 2016
21 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:37 pm to
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I would much rather have UVA than VA Tech. They have great baseball and basketball programs and great academic program, but I realize football is king, and VA Tech wins that category. I feel like UVA fits in better culturally as well.



UVA and UNC wouldn't join the SEC unless everything blew up and things significantly changed. They'd be much more apt to join the Big Ten.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:39 pm to
Except it is not a coincidence there was no SEC Network until the Aggies added Texas to the SEC footprint and increased the population in the SEC state footprint by 1/3.

Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3328 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:40 pm to
Why do you say that? Not saying you're wrong, just curious.
Posted by Plaid Palace
Member since Jan 2016
21 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Why do you say that? Not saying you're wrong, just curious.


They see themselves as academic schools and our conference as an athletics conference. To summarize, they look down on us as institutions and would want to be in a league with like-minded schools.

NC State and Virginia Tech would be much more likely options, though the politics of splitting in-state schools from their rivals would be difficult, especially in Virginia. Virginia (the state government) had a big battle when Tech got into the ACC, and I think they even passed bills stating they couldn't split apart (could be wrong there).
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140686 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:06 pm to
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I feel like UVA fits in better culturally as well.


Um, no. Snooty bastards do not fit with the SEC. I grew up in VA. They are not SEC fans at all.

First problem is t-shirt sales. If, as an adult, you wear a UVA t-shirt in VA there's a good chance you actually attended the college. Quite different culturally than the SEC.

Hell, when I moved to FL I thought everyone graduated from college because of all the FSU, UF and Miami gear. Boy was I wrong. Then I moved to AL and dear lord the t-shirts.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted by The7Sins
Truth or Consequences, New Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:08 pm to
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But, a Southern conference that does not include NC and Virginia?


I've said before we should kick out Missouri, and Kentucky for being damn Yankees and add UNC, Duke, Virginia, and Oklahoma to go to 16.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:52 pm to
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I am pretty confident that if the SEC moved to expand again it would chase schools in Virginia and North Carolina.
i can't say YES enough to this. these are good schools academically that are good enough on the field. they bring in 2 new tv markets and quite a bit of prestige.

NO:
va tech
w va
nc st
ok st
louisville

we don't need these 2nd rate schools. bring in the top or don't expand.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Add NC State and Va Tech, slide Mizzou over to the west.
for the life of me, i cannot understand the repetitive and confusing appeal of these two second rate schools.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
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UVA and UNC wouldn't join the SEC unless everything blew up and things significantly changed


While I generally agree, the SEC is already at 4 AAU schools. Only one behind the ACC. It would probably take some pretty good recruiting by the SEC's AAU schools to make it happen.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:04 pm to
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NC State and Virginia Tech would be much more likely options
michael scott no .gif!!!!!!!!
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3328 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:16 pm to
Of course they're not SEC fans. They're in the ACC.

I think t shirt sales have more to do with success and branding than with conference, so I'm not sure what point you're making there. You don't see a lot of people who aren't students or alumni sporting Vandy football shirts.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Oklahoma


Can't imagine why "Big Game" Bob would want to come to a mediocre conference like the SEC. I would prefer North Carolina and Duke.

Helps in Basketball, academics...just a good fit all the way around.
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