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re: Real talk: Would Bama be pedestrian without Tua?

Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:42 pm to
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The defense is going to cost Alabama at least one game, possibly as soon as this week to Missouri with Diggs out. If they make it to the playoffs Ohio State will run them out of the stadium. I'll take your downvotes now.


Tua is a football prodigy and like many sports prodigies he's a self-motivated perfectionist. I really believe Tua is so advanced he could coordinate Bama's offense and coach their other QBs. Seriously. This kid's father and uncle must be some serious coaches. Plus, the kid received NFL coaching from June Jones in high school. I really think it's kismet with Tua. His story from a purely football perspective is incredible. With that said, Tua brings 35-40 points every game for Bama. Bama really can afford to not have a great defense this year.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65004 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:47 pm to
Last year's first six games: averaged 43 points per game
This year's first six games: averaged 56 points per game

We have looked far more impressive this year against a similar strength of schedule than last year.

Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:50 pm to
Tua is a very good qb, is he great, we have no idea because he’s surrounded with so much great talent. That’s why drafting a bama qb or rb is so hard to do, because there’s always great receivers and above average linemen.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Tua is a very good qb, is he great, we have no idea because he’s surrounded with so much great talent. That’s why drafting a bama qb or rb is so hard to do, because there’s always great receivers and above average linemen.


You realize the NFL people do this for a living, right? They don't always hit the mark, but they do tend to have a good idea of how to evaluate players both in and out of context. How many Bama QBs have been drafted during Saban's run? McCarron? McElroy, maybe? The NFL has shown it's perfectly capable of not drafting players like Sims and Coker as quarterbacks despite said players leading teams to the playoffs or the title.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:13 pm to
If you think Tua is just a guy who can throw and throw it to great WRs I want you to do one thing the next time Tua is playing. Watch his head movements (pause). This guy is going through progressions, diagnosing defenses and looking off defensive corners and safeties. And, then Tua has no qualms about using his check down. He takes what defenses give him. Tua ain't ordinary.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted by ggt
Member since Oct 2018
75 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:14 pm to
I don’t think they’d be resting starters at halftime without Tua
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:15 pm to
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You realize the NFL people do this for a living, right?


Didn’t realize that at all, thought the flipped burgers for their main gig. Thanks for clarifying
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:17 pm to
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If you think Tua is just a guy who can throw and throw it to great WRs I want you to do one thing the next time Tua is playing. Watch his head movements (pause). This guy is going through progressions, diagnosing defenses and looking off defensive corners and safeties. Tua ain't ordinary.


Moi? I already gave my assessment of Tua earlier and it wasn't that he's 'ordinary.'
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:18 pm to
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Moi? I already gave my assessment of Tua earlier and it wasn't that he's 'ordinary.'


I was talking to AU4real35.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:26 pm to
Well I said he was a very good qb, but I’m not going to crown him as great just yet.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:20 pm to
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Didn’t realize that at all, thought the flipped burgers for their main gig. Thanks for clarifying


Well, you were wrong, except in the case of Cleveland. But my daddy always said, a day when you learn something new is a day that hasn't been wasted. Or a day you need to get wasted. One of those. I should call my dad and clarify that point.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 11:03 pm to
They took the best six games of these heisman winners & compared them to Tua's 1st six games.



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Posted by TommyM
Conflict of interest
Member since Nov 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:12 am to
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Bama really can afford to not have a great defense this year


Signed,
The Big 12

How's that usually work out for them?
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:46 am to
Tommy, you dumber den shite.
Posted by TommyM
Conflict of interest
Member since Nov 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 1:09 am to
Arkansas, dude. fricking Arkansas.

When Joe Burrow looks like Joe Montana on November 3rd, I'll try real hard not to say I told you so.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4468 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 1:46 am to
Injury bug has caught up to Bama's defense. Gonna get interesting.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1804 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 4:18 am to
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TommyM
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The defense is going to cost Alabama at least one game, possibly as soon as this week to Missouri with Diggs out. If they make it to the playoffs Ohio State will run them out of the stadium.
Wishful thinking has made fools of many Bama-haters.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1804 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 4:30 am to
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TommyM
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quote:
Bama really can afford to not have a great defense this year


Signed,
The Big 12

How's that usually work out for them?
But who has a great defense this year?

Not OSU: snicker
Not Clemson - very good DL talent, not playing like it. Bad back 7.
Not ND: snicker
Not UGA: mediocre DL, some talent but mostly inexperienced elsewhere. They haven't had a good secondary yet under Kirby.
Not OU or WVU: snicker
Not Tex: though not in the same category as OU or WVU, they are not a big time defense.

Bama's defense will not be great but it is now above average and will improve significantly before years' end. Bama's O is the best in the country by far.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4302 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:24 am to
If Bama traded QBs with every opponent this year, we might have a .500 record.

For example, if LSU played with Tua at QB and we had Burrow, we lose. If Auburn has Tua and we had Stidham etc ...

That’s the diff Tua makes. Bama is 30 points better.

No team can beat this Bama team playing balls out over four quarters.
Too many points.

Now, with Hurts, we might make the SEC championship game, but we lose to Georgia IMO. I mean we saw it in the championship last year. Hurts couldn’t move this offense against Ga. And I’m not buying he’s that much better now.

Could be wrong. But our offense is still producing a lot less once Hurts takes the field, even against inferior opposition.

What people fail to realize is that all our game managers from the past were better passers and saw the field better than Hurts.

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