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re: Ranking the Power 4 Schools for Academics

Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:10 pm to
Useless stat with CFB and NIL
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:32 pm to
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Tech's alumni base in Atlanta is actually smaller than several out of state SEC schools (and possibly Clemson too).

Older Tech alumni (those that graduated in the 80s and before) are still around. However, in the last 25-30 years Tech graduates are highly likely to leave and go to the west coast, other parts of the country, or are international students who return home with their degree.

Add in the number of non-Georgia natives that continue to relocate to Atlanta and bring fan support from Big 10 ir Big 12 footprint schools, Tech just doesn't have that many eyeballs to bring to the table.


I have always wondered if Georgia Tech has (or even ever had) a T shirt contingent to their fan base. In most states the non flag school is the land grant school and they can always develop a "Rural farmer/I hate snobs" type of fan base.

Ga Tech doesn't have that. Georgia has the rural farmer base... And most "I hate the rich snobs" people aren't exactly enamored with tech geeks either. So Ga Tech doesn't have that either.

And Athens is way too close to Atlanta for Ga Tech to have a fan base built on proximity and location like some states schools develop.

Posted by HunterDawg
Member since Oct 2024
572 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:42 pm to
There's the same gap between UGA and Auburn as there is in Auburn and Alabama. Is Auburn even trying?
Posted by VYForever
Frisco
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:05 am to
Thought Auburn and SoCar would be higher and were thought of more than that. Shame.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26738 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:25 am to
Why is LSU not on this list? I would probably stop talking.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:03 am to
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West Seattle Dude

Hey Dude,
You want Coach KDB back?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:11 am to
The difference in individual rankings is negligible. But I think it is true your experience at the top say, 9 schools will be different than at the rest (those schools are seriously selective) and from 10-22 more or less the same. And then from 23 down to 30 or so more or less the same, and so on, though I sense that WVU and Louisville might genuinely be the *worst* schools in this.

A lot of what you experience at most schools depends on what you put into it and your degree.

But I did notice as a grad student at Michigan there were more kids in the library on Friday and Saturday nights than there had been at Texas. Just generally, they were taking school more seriously. Whereas there were certain libraries at Texas that might be busy on the weekends (I know because I worked in the libraries), they were all packed at Michigan.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 3:32 am
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2345 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:59 am to
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There's the same gap between UGA and Auburn as there is in Auburn and Alabama. Is Auburn even trying?


You guys keep producing gender studies researchers, historians, and literature teachers while we keep producing global CEOs and NASA scientists!
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 5:00 am
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6672 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 5:13 am to
Academics? Wut?
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 5:37 am to
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I have always wondered if Georgia Tech has (or even ever had) a T shirt contingent to their fan base. In most states the non flag school is the land grant school and they can always develop a "Rural farmer/I hate snobs" type of fan base.


Before pro teams came to Atlanta yes
Posted by GTnerd
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 5:47 am to
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Add in the number of non-Georgia natives that continue to relocate to Atlanta and bring fan support from Big 10 ir Big 12 footprint schools, Tech just doesn't have that many eyeballs to bring to the table.


Tech was 21st in TV viewership last season, and our game last wknd had more viewers than Auburn vs. Baylor
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10068 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:22 am to
We ain't here to play school baw!
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3562 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:58 am to
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However, in the last 25-30 years Tech graduates are highly likely to leave and go to the west coast, other parts of the country, or are international students who return home with their degree.


I know this is anecdotal, but I have a cousin who went to Tech. He and his wife live in ATL, have season tickets to football and basketball games, and they have a thriving tailgate before all home games with young alumni who all support the team.

I know it’s a smaller following than UGA, but no one can tell me UVA has better fan support or a bigger market than Tech. I just don’t buy that.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
662 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:16 am to
Tech’s freshman classes are always around 60% Georgia natives, and acceptance rate is about 30% for in-state vs. 9% out of state. Also approx 54% of our grads decide to stay in GA to live and work.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:35 am to
No way there are 5 schools with worse academics than us.
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:35 am to
You know things are bleak when you break out the “look we have better grades than these other teams “ table.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:02 am to
Ga Tech is in a weird spot. They receive like 1.2 B in research funding form the feds. So they could careless about SEC/B10 payouts. They will limp along in whatever the ACC ends up being and never care about football, unless their funding is cut.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85780 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:35 am to
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Thought Auburn and SoCar would be higher and were thought of more than that. Shame.


Forbes rankings are always stupid and is an outlier for Auburn.
Posted by Rrrrroger
Member since Mar 2021
956 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:47 am to
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All of the HS teachers and PE coaches that went to Texas and Texas A&M simply ignore their 60k annual salaries because muhhh academic rankings!


Oh look, an LSU fan that couldn’t get into A&M or Texas
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:50 am to
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3. Alabama went with the “get a big enrollment at all costs” route about twenty years ago and they are getting all kinds of kids from up north who aren’t able to get into their top state school (like Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc), so they come to Bama. Graduate. And then they have low alumni engagement in years to follow because they went back home.



LSU has taken the same mindset to enrollment it seems and has def led to a lesser quality student. Our approach seems to be get as many as we can on campus and let them filter themselves out. Works from a business perspective but not as much a reputational one.

LSU is searching for a new president and I suspect one of his first issues will be addressing recent trends in enrollment.
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