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Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:04 am to Roger Klarvin
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1: Bama (Like it or not, they are the "flagship" of the SEC)
Total NC's
LSU 46 -
3 in football, 6 in baseball, 1 basketball(?), Golf 4, mens indoor 2, mens outdoor 4, women's indoor 11, women's outdoor 15.
Bama 22 - 14 in football, 1 Softball, 1 women's golf , 6 gymnastics
Flagship my arse.
This post was edited on 5/4/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:06 am to memphisplaya
I guess I'll park my car back in this thread again. Morning fellas
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:39 am to RocketBallz
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The purpose of conferences today is to generate money. Everything else is secondary. Academics mean almost nothing as long as you don't embarrass your conference mates. Track championships and other unwatched sports mean less than nothing.
What you did in the past is only meaningful in how well it predicts what you will do in the future and how big your fan base is to drive TV contracts.
TV market size and state population matters, but must be discounted by fan percentage and loyalty.
Given that and making some wild guess about the future and how to weigh Football, Basketball, and Baseball:
Group A: Alabama, Florida, A&M, LSU, Georgia
Group B: UK, Tenn, Auburn
Group C: Mizzou, SC, Arkansas
Group D: Ole Miss
Group F: Miss St, Vandy
Excellent post.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:46 am to auburnphan23
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No way you can convince A&M is a more valuable team, especially when they have largely accomplished nothing in their entire history and they are the 2nd most popular team in their state at best
Texas: 27 million people
Alabama: 5 million people
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:51 am to Monticello
22 of which are Texas fans
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:54 am to memphisplaya
Psst Dear LSU/Ark fans no one knows, cares or just in general gives two fricks about college track outside of the Athletes and Parents, the country cares about track every 4 years in the summer.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:55 am to Monticello
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27 million people
UT
aTm
Baylor
TCU
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
LSU (Houston area mostly)
All have large fan bases in Texas. aTm is 2nd or 3rd on that list but at most it's probably only 5 million or so.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 9:09 am to roguetiger15
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22 of which are Texas fans
I don't think the disparity between the numbers of Texas v. A&M fans in Texas is as big as you think, especially around the Houston area.
Also, ESPN and CBS don't care what team you cheer for as long as you watch. If A&M being in the SEC means UT fans watch SEC games cheering against A&M, that still adds value to the conference. I watch a lot of Auburn games even though I am an Alabama fan.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 9:14 am to Monticello
Swap Mizzou and Tenn (Mizzou's state has a much larger population and Tenn is now a Minnesota) and this list nailed it.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 9:25 am to bigdawg7780
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Psst Dear LSU/Ark fans no one knows, cares or just in general gives two fricks about college track outside of the Athletes and Parents, the country cares about track every 4 years in the summer.
So are you telling me you care about softball and gymnastics more?
Posted on 5/4/14 at 10:48 am to memphisplaya
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So are you telling me you care about softball and gymnastics more?
No they are equal to track in that regard
Football
Men's Hoops
The rest of them
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:23 am to randomways
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I hate to hurt the feelings of some of the nicer TAMU fans here, but I pretty much have to agree too. The series between the two is far too lopsided overall for a couple of years of divergent levels of success to change the perception. Or even a decent decade, like the '80s. The Austin Shitty Gimlets are 76-37-5 against TAMU. You gotta work overtime to undo the perception with that sort of record over that many games weighing you down.
Agreed that we have more ground to catch up.
But one key point that EVERY troll (aka not you) misses is that A&M's boost the last two years is not just JFF. Being in the SEC doesn't put us above Texas automatically, but it does make it so we never fall behind a Baylor or a Tech and that we are a legitimate #2 ala Auburn, Mich St and FSU.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:28 am to cardboardboxer
I respect your honesty.
My point in previous posts, is that two years of being better doesn't change 100 years of Texas being the program in the state.
It is my opinion that the only former big programs that will continue to stay down,mare Nebraska and Tennessee.
My point in previous posts, is that two years of being better doesn't change 100 years of Texas being the program in the state.
It is my opinion that the only former big programs that will continue to stay down,mare Nebraska and Tennessee.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:31 am to Monticello
no
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:38 am to Monticello
Louisiana State
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia
Auburn
Texas A&M
South Carolina
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Kentucky
Missouri
Miss State
Vandy
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia
Auburn
Texas A&M
South Carolina
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Kentucky
Missouri
Miss State
Vandy
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:02 pm to MetryTyger
Saban saved Bama from falling to mid-tier on this list
Can't wait for Kiffen to take over
Can't wait for Kiffen to take over
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:05 pm to Monticello
Solid gumping
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:07 pm to RocketBallz
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Group A: Alabama, Florida, A&M, LSU, Georgia Group B: UK, Tenn, Auburn Group C: Mizzou, SC, Arkansas Group D: Ole Miss Group F: Miss St, Vandy
I think the UK basketball program generates enough national interest to justify a Group A rating. We have replaced Duke as the most hated program in the country. More articles are written about Coach Cal and his program than about any other college basketball story.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:16 pm to Monticello
I honestly can't imagine the SEC without any of the schools except aTm and mizzou and I'm sure in time I'll feel the same way about them. I would have preferred the SEC stayed at 12 but it is what it is. It's also to soon to tell how adding a&m and mizzou will affect the conference.
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