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re: Rank the BCS national championship winning quarterbacks

Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:47 pm to
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Sup


How many times have you posted that today?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:48 pm to
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Give me Leinart over all them


as a COLLEGE QB- yes

But the top tier in the OP are spot on
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 9:50 pm
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:03 pm to
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Give me Leinart over all them


Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:04 pm to
VY /thread.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:06 pm to
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That vacated arse kicking still stings I see.



Not really.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:07 pm to
BTW, Tebow went 4-0 (3-0 as a starter) vs. USC.

There goes that shitty theory.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:08 pm to
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How many times have you posted that today?


When i run across him
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:10 pm to
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Newton > Leinart, Tebow
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:11 pm to
My thoughts.

1) You're not a very good poster.

2) Leinart might be good enough to hold Newton's jock.

3) You made a thread that basically put McElroy at the bottom. Shocking.

To be honest VY, Tebow, and Newton are a step above everyone by far. Leinart is the next in line but he was surrounded by so much talent he didn't get exposed until the NFL. Amazing talent vs Pac 10 defenses will blow your stats up.

After those 4 the other guys basically tie for 5th. Weinke was 78 years old when he graduated. Heupel, Dorsey, Mauck, Leak, Flynn, McElroy, and Krenzel are all about the same.

Tee Martin I tend to put at 5 because he was good enough to get paid by boosters and he did something Peyton couldn't.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:12 pm to
Is that TT?
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:17 pm to
Yep, looks that way.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:19 pm to
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Tennessee should have been more committed to running the ball and actually been more conservative with Peyton Manning as their QB. They were ranked 42nd in rushing in 1994, ran for less than 130 yards per game in 1996 and were ranked 52nd in rushing in 1997. When they won the national championship in 1998, Tennessee's rushing offense was ranked 17th in the country. In a perverted sort of way, Peyton Manning might have HURT Tennessee. To beat a team like Florida, you need to grind away at the clock and keep the Gators powerful offense off the field. Instead, Tennessee threw the ball a lot more than they should have. They were overly reliant on Manning. And they lost every time. Tee Martin forced the UT coaches to adjust and find ways to protect their first year QB. And in the end, it won them a national championship.


I cant believe im saying this but i actually agree with you Bench. That basically is exactly what was goin on at the time. Its just even more shocking to me that Fulmer's staff adjusted to protect him instead of doing what they normally did which was waste amazing talent.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:27 pm to
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Leinart is the next in line but he was surrounded by so much talent he didn't get exposed until the NFL.


He had comparable talent to McElroy and put up much better numbers. USC averaged 41.1 PPG in 2003, 38.1 PPG in 2004 and 49.1 PPG in 2005. Oh and against SEC competition, USC put up 93 points in two games and Leinart was 35-54 for 573 yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:34 pm to
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He had comparable talent to McElroy and put up much better numbers. USC averaged 41.1 PPG in 2003, 38.1 PPG in 2004 and 49.1 PPG in 2005. Oh and against SEC competition, USC put up 93 points in two games and Leinart was 35-54 for 573 yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs.


That is why I put him at 4th on the list. There is no way he is above Newton.

I really don't think Leinart is that good though. He had over 100 more attempts per year than McElroy and played versus Pac 10 defenses. He had similar offenses talent and played in a more pass happy offense against crappy defenses.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:38 pm to
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Oh and against SEC competition, USC put up 93 points in two games and Leinart was 35-54 for 573 yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs.


But, but, but....
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:42 pm to
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He had over 100 more attempts per year than McElroy and played versus Pac 10 defenses. He had similar offenses talent and played in a more pass happy offense against crappy defenses.


Fine. Matt Leinart played five games against OOC teams that finished in the AP top 10. His numbers in those games: 106-170, 1597 yards, 12 TDS, 3 INT. Leinart had a 300 yard game in four of those games. The only time he didn't have a 300 yard game was against Oklahoma when USC had that huge lead. He would have cleared that barrier with ease but USC didn't even attempt a pass in the fourth quarter. Another Matt Leinart fact. In those five games against top 10 OOC opponents, he averaged at least 9 yards per pass attempt in every one of those games. Leinart didn't have any problems stepping up his game against teams with top talent.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:56 pm to
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Fine. Matt Leinart played five games against OOC teams that finished in the AP top 10. His numbers in those games: 106-170, 1597 yards, 12 TDS, 3 INT. Leinart had a 300 yard game in four of those games. The only time he didn't have a 300 yard game was against Oklahoma when USC had that huge lead. He would have cleared that barrier with ease but USC didn't even attempt a pass in the fourth quarter. Another Matt Leinart fact. In those five games against top 10 OOC opponents, he averaged at least 9 yards per pass attempt in every one of those games. Leinart didn't have any problems stepping up his game against teams with top talent.


Which is why I put him 4th. He was able to win games. He had stacked offensive talent and used it. Newton won a national championship as the team. It isn't close between the two of them. If you put Newton on USC they would have scored more than 70 versus Arkansas to talk about how much better than the SEC they are.

Leinart averaged 8.6 an attempt. Cam Newton had 10.2 plus he couldn't be stopped on the ground. Leinart was a good college QB, Newton was one of the best.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:58 pm to
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Oh and against SEC competition, USC put up 93 points in two games and Leinart was 35-54 for 573 yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs.

But, but, but....


Those stats are a bit misleading... I could paraphrase those stats by saying Arkansas gave up 70 and they aren't a real SEC team.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:03 pm to
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Which is why I put him 4th. He was able to win games. He had stacked offensive talent and used it. Newton won a national championship as the team. It isn't close between the two of them. If you put Newton on USC they would have scored more than 70 versus Arkansas to talk about how much better than the SEC they are.

Leinart averaged 8.6 an attempt. Cam Newton had 10.2 plus he couldn't be stopped on the ground. Leinart was a good college QB, Newton was one of the best.


Leinart did it for three years, Newton did it for one. For me, it's comparable to Herschel Walker vs. Barry Sanders. Herschel Walker was an incredible college running back for three years. Barry Sanders was the greatest college running back of all-time for one year. I would take Herschel's college career over Barry's every day of the week. Newton's best year was better than Leinart's best year but Leinart had a better body of work and college career than Newton.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:04 pm to
Newton made his school his bitch twice, I'd be upset too
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