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Rank the BCS national championship winning quarterbacks
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:05 pm
Tier One
1. Vince Young
2. Tim Tebow
3. Matt Leinart
4. Cam Newton
I put Leinart ahead of Newton for several reasons. One, he played college QB at an elite level for three years compared to Newton's one. Two, Leinart's numbers in his two BCS national championship games was off the charts. He was 47-75 for 667 yards with six TDs and one INT. There was also the game against Notre Dame when he threw a perfect pass downfield to Dwayne Jarrett who was covered like a blanket to convert a fourth down and nine to keep USC's national championship hopes alive. The man knew how to get it done in the clutch.
Tier Two
5. Chris Weinke
6. Josh Heupel
7. Ken Dorsey
Tier Three
8. Matt Mauck
9. Chris Leak
10. Matt Flynn
You could put any of these QBs at 8-10. These are three QBs who are pretty comparable in ability. For me, Matt Mauck has to be ahead of the other two because he played a vital role in LSU winning two SEC championships and they probably would have won a third if he came back for his Senior year. Also, the 2002 and 2004 seasons really showed how important he was to LSU.
Matt Flynn was statistically the worst QB to win a BCS national championship and the only QB to win a national championship with two losses. But he deserves a lot of credit for being at the helm for a great LSU offense. LSU scored at least 28 points in every game Flynn played for them. In the one game Flynn missed that season, LSU scored 21 points and had only one offensive TD.
Tier 4
11. Tee Martin
12. Greg McElroy
13. Craig Krenzel
Here's my theory about Tennessee winning the championship with Tee Martin instead of Peyton Manning. There are three main reasons why Tennessee won it all in 1998.
1) Tennessee played much better defensively against Florida in 1998 than they did the previous four years.
2) Florida wasn't the same juggernaut like they were from 1994-1996 with Danny Wuerffel as their QB.
3) Tennessee didn't run the ball enough.
Tennessee should have been more committed to running the ball and actually been more conservative with Peyton Manning as their QB. They were ranked 42nd in rushing in 1994, ran for less than 130 yards per game in 1996 and were ranked 52nd in rushing in 1997. When they won the national championship in 1998, Tennessee's rushing offense was ranked 17th in the country. In a perverted sort of way, Peyton Manning might have HURT Tennessee. To beat a team like Florida, you need to grind away at the clock and keep the Gators powerful offense off the field. Instead, Tennessee threw the ball a lot more than they should have. They were overly reliant on Manning. And they lost every time. Tee Martin forced the UT coaches to adjust and find ways to protect their first year QB. And in the end, it won them a national championship.
1. Vince Young
2. Tim Tebow
3. Matt Leinart
4. Cam Newton
I put Leinart ahead of Newton for several reasons. One, he played college QB at an elite level for three years compared to Newton's one. Two, Leinart's numbers in his two BCS national championship games was off the charts. He was 47-75 for 667 yards with six TDs and one INT. There was also the game against Notre Dame when he threw a perfect pass downfield to Dwayne Jarrett who was covered like a blanket to convert a fourth down and nine to keep USC's national championship hopes alive. The man knew how to get it done in the clutch.
Tier Two
5. Chris Weinke
6. Josh Heupel
7. Ken Dorsey
Tier Three
8. Matt Mauck
9. Chris Leak
10. Matt Flynn
You could put any of these QBs at 8-10. These are three QBs who are pretty comparable in ability. For me, Matt Mauck has to be ahead of the other two because he played a vital role in LSU winning two SEC championships and they probably would have won a third if he came back for his Senior year. Also, the 2002 and 2004 seasons really showed how important he was to LSU.
Matt Flynn was statistically the worst QB to win a BCS national championship and the only QB to win a national championship with two losses. But he deserves a lot of credit for being at the helm for a great LSU offense. LSU scored at least 28 points in every game Flynn played for them. In the one game Flynn missed that season, LSU scored 21 points and had only one offensive TD.
Tier 4
11. Tee Martin
12. Greg McElroy
13. Craig Krenzel
Here's my theory about Tennessee winning the championship with Tee Martin instead of Peyton Manning. There are three main reasons why Tennessee won it all in 1998.
1) Tennessee played much better defensively against Florida in 1998 than they did the previous four years.
2) Florida wasn't the same juggernaut like they were from 1994-1996 with Danny Wuerffel as their QB.
3) Tennessee didn't run the ball enough.
Tennessee should have been more committed to running the ball and actually been more conservative with Peyton Manning as their QB. They were ranked 42nd in rushing in 1994, ran for less than 130 yards per game in 1996 and were ranked 52nd in rushing in 1997. When they won the national championship in 1998, Tennessee's rushing offense was ranked 17th in the country. In a perverted sort of way, Peyton Manning might have HURT Tennessee. To beat a team like Florida, you need to grind away at the clock and keep the Gators powerful offense off the field. Instead, Tennessee threw the ball a lot more than they should have. They were overly reliant on Manning. And they lost every time. Tee Martin forced the UT coaches to adjust and find ways to protect their first year QB. And in the end, it won them a national championship.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:09 pm to Bench McElroy
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12. Greg McElroy
13. Craig Krenzel
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:10 pm to Bench McElroy
I Know T. Frazier was before the BCS era, but I believe that he was just as athletic as the top 4 that you named.
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:11 pm to RunningbackUftw
Newton > Leinart, Tebow
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:12 pm to RunningbackUftw
quote:So have ya'll figured out whose alter this is?
RunningbackUftw
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:14 pm to HogKing111
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Newton > Leinart, Tebow
Without question.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:16 pm to tduecen
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So have ya'll figured out whose alter this is?
He who swore he had nor would make an alter
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:17 pm to AUTigLN11
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Without question.
Give me Leinart over all them
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:17 pm to tduecen
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So have ya'll figured out whose alter this is?
no
but its clearly an alter
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:22 pm to tduecen
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So have ya'll figured out whose alter this is?
What do you get when you put Opie Taylor, and Justin Beiber together?
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:24 pm to memphisplaya
McElroy belongs in the top 9 at worst.
Young absolutely raped Southern Cal's defense. He was ridiculous all year long despite playing into the 4th in only 4-5 games.
Tebow had the best 3 years by a quarterback in the last 30 years. His performance against Oklahoma wasn't his best effort, but it was still better than Newton's.
You have to consider how Tebow and Newton were getting their rushing yards. Tebow was getting 4-5-6-7-8 yards by running right up the middle on designed runs. I'd be willing to bet that at least 40% of Newton's rushing yards came on called passing plays that he just happen to scramble after the Defensive back 7 had vacated the middle of the field and were 15 or more yards downfield. Call me crazy, but I'm more impressed by the guy taking the snap and running straight forward into the heart and meat of a defense rather than a guy scrambling away from them.
Young absolutely raped Southern Cal's defense. He was ridiculous all year long despite playing into the 4th in only 4-5 games.
Tebow had the best 3 years by a quarterback in the last 30 years. His performance against Oklahoma wasn't his best effort, but it was still better than Newton's.
You have to consider how Tebow and Newton were getting their rushing yards. Tebow was getting 4-5-6-7-8 yards by running right up the middle on designed runs. I'd be willing to bet that at least 40% of Newton's rushing yards came on called passing plays that he just happen to scramble after the Defensive back 7 had vacated the middle of the field and were 15 or more yards downfield. Call me crazy, but I'm more impressed by the guy taking the snap and running straight forward into the heart and meat of a defense rather than a guy scrambling away from them.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:24 pm to Bench McElroy
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Josh Heupel
By the time they played the Orange Bowl, Heupel's arm was worn out. Their defense won that game for them.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:28 pm to GamecockAlum
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GamecockAlum
You really don't think Cam ran better than Tebow on designed running plays? Go back and watch "The Run" against LSU. He did that all year long.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:29 pm to GamecockAlum
Newton was a better passer, faster, and harder to tackle than Tebow. He was just as much of a leader, just as charismatic, and put the team on his shoulders just as much.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:38 pm to HogKing111
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Newton was a better passer, faster, and harder to tackle than Tebow. He was just as much of a leader, just as charismatic, and put the team on his shoulders just as much.
Nope.
Tebow's Heisman year > Newton's. The numbers don't lie.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:42 pm to TiggerWoods
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You really don't think Cam ran better than Tebow on designed running plays? Go back and watch "The Run" against LSU.
Okay that was one run.
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He did that all year long.
Not really. He'd have maybe one or 2 really good run off of a designed running play, but by and large he was relying on 4-6 yarders and then yards on scrambles.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:45 pm to GamecockAlum
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You have to consider how Tebow and Newton were getting their rushing yards. Tebow was getting 4-5-6-7-8 yards by running right up the middle on designed runs. I'd be willing to bet that at least 40% of Newton's rushing yards came on called passing plays that he just happen to scramble after the Defensive back 7 had vacated the middle of the field and were 15 or more yards downfield. Call me crazy, but I'm more impressed by the guy taking the snap and running straight forward into the heart and meat of a defense rather than a guy scrambling away from them.
lulz
3rd & 1-3 yds to go
2010 - Newton - 22 of 30 - 73%
2009 - Tebow - 19 of 26 - 73%
2008 - Tebow - 15 of 21 - 71%
2007 - Tebow - 14 of 20 - 70%
Stats show you don't know what you're talking about.
Plus Newton averaged more rushing attempts per game (14.8 for Tebow, 18.9 for Newton). And less passing attempts per game (23.5 for Tebow, 20 for Newton). Seems to me defenses would be keying in on Newton's running more than Tebow's since he ran more and threw less than Tebow. I don't think defenses would be dropping 7 into coverage a whole lot with Newton's running ability.
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