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re: Question for people who watched the book of manning.

Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:47 am to
And back to OP, Archie was great for his time, but Johnny is much better. That just shouldn't even be up for debate. I think Archie is a good man and seems like a great father. Ole Miss is lookin pretty solid this year and the trajectory of their program is headed in the right direction.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:47 am to
The trolls in this thread are too obvious. Any post that doesn't look like this...


Archie










































JFF






...is a troll post.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:48 am to
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What "problem" does Johnny have? This is what I don't get. The kid is an amazing football player, likes to party a bit and hang out with celebs, and away from the media spotlight spends some serious time hanging out with unfortunate kids.

What "problem" does he have?



Man, folks just don't like his personality. It's worse if he's playing against you because it feels like you got clowned on by an a-hole, but it's great if he plays for you because he wins with swagger. That's basically the long and short of it.

But I'm trying to bury the hatchet here
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:48 am to
Kindly STFU
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:53 am to
quote:

What "problem" does he have?


It's one thing for John Q College Kid to go out and get wasted on occasion.

Its another for Johnny Manziel to do it, have the cameras follow him everywhere, and then keep on doing it, have it reported, and to keep on doing it, and to do it to the point where you cannot meet a rather public committment. Instead of saying to himself, "Self, everyone and his mother is following my every move, maybe I need to cut back the partying," he doubled down. That is the sign of a problem.

How many people said, "If only he can make it to footbal season, the discipline of football will clean him up." Go ask Todd Marinovich how well the disipline of football controls issues.

That's what concerns me. There are very public signs of an issue, and the last thing anyone wants (Rant Idiots exclused) is to see this kid who has a bright future throw it away ala Marinovich.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:54 am to


Even though I think JFF is a huge douche, I enjoy watching him play.

FTR, the Nkemdiche bros are going to break his bitch arse in half.

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60189 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:57 am to
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How many people said, "If only he can make it to footbal season, the discipline of football will clean him up." Go ask Todd Marinovich how well the disipline of football controls issues. That's what concerns me. There are very public signs of an issue, and the last thing anyone wants (Rant Idiots exclused) is to see this kid who has a bright future throw it away ala Marinovich.


Uh maybe you haven't realized but the season has started and he is playing lights out. I'm sure he appreciates your concern though.
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
508 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:59 am to
quote:

That's what concerns me. There are very public signs of an issue, and the last thing anyone wants (Rant Idiots exclused) is to see this kid who has a bright future throw it away ala Marinovich.


bullshite. Dont act like you are concerned for the kid. Everyone here hates him. You just don't like him...be a man and admit it. Faking "concern" is bush league.

Michael Jordan partied his balls off and was confident/cocky just like Johnny. A ton of world class athletes are similar. He and many others just didn't have media and social media trying to tear him down constantly and fabricate crazy soap opera stories for ratings out of complete non-stories like Johnny having beers thrown at him at a frat party or doing the money sign during a game (that all of his teamates do).
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 11:06 am
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
508 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:05 am to
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FTR, the Nkemdiche bros are going to break his bitch arse in half


Can't count how many times this has been said. I am sure he is trembling over the thought of playing you guys.

This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 11:07 am
Posted by dtmb
Member since Mar 2013
663 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:07 am to
quote:

What "problem" does he have?


I want to preface what I'm about to say by pointing out that I don't think this necessarily qualifies as a "problem" that JFF has, and I only have secondhand information on isolated incidents to go on, so I don't want to come across as though I'm judging Manziel at all.

With all of that out of the way, some people could jump to the conclusion that Manziel wasn't disciplined much as a kid. I think that's a snap judgment, because who really knows? But I think people could get that impression from Thompson's article. Manziel apparently told his aunt to shut the hell up during a family dinner, and no one even corrected him. Supposedly, his dad kind of dreads playing golf with him because Manziel tends to fling his golf clubs around and lose his temper. For most people, it's kind of strange that Paul Manziel punched JFF's friend in the groin and then high-fived JFF. I know there are all kinds of ways for fathers to interact with their sons, but some people could see that as Paul being more of a friend to JFF than a father. Like I said, this is a snap judgment based on very little real information, but I think that has at least something to do with the way people react to JFF.

Sorry for the length of this post.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Even though I think JFF is a huge douche, I enjoy watching him play.

FTR, the Nkemdiche bros are going to break his bitch arse in half.


Let's see how you clowns do against the gumps first. I know the Nkemdiche bros gave up a million points to Vanderbilt so I don't have much faith.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:08 am to
quote:

I am sure he is trembling over the thought of playing you guys

He's probably too high on meth to put a reasonable thought together.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:09 am to
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Let's see how you clowns do against the gumps first

The Alabama game has no effect on how bad we beat A&M in Oxford.

We aren't going to parade around beating our chests over a loss.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:10 am to
quote:


Its another for Johnny Manziel to do it, have the cameras follow him everywhere, and then keep on doing it, have it reported, and to keep on doing it, and to do it to the point where you cannot meet a rather public committment.


He's not changing who he is for you or anyone else. And that's a good thing for him (unless you're a fan of the opposing team).

quote:

How many people said, "If only he can make it to footbal season, the discipline of football will clean him up." Go ask Todd Marinovich how well the disipline of football controls issues.



Remind me how many "issues" he's had this season? Kid's hardly uttered a peep and not been in the headlines for anything other than recycled garbage.
Posted by Rebel89
Grenada, MS
Member since Aug 2013
69 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:28 am to
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He was 22-10 as a college starter? Lol. He was also a historically bad NFL QB. fricking awful. Only an organization that accepts losing like the Saints would keep trotting the dude out there like that. Johnny doesn't accept failure like that.


And there we have it! Our first faggie
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
508 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I want to preface what I'm about to say by pointing out that I don't think this necessarily qualifies as a "problem" that JFF has, and I only have secondhand information on isolated incidents to go on, so I don't want to come across as though I'm judging Manziel at all.

With all of that out of the way, some people could jump to the conclusion that Manziel wasn't disciplined much as a kid. I think that's a snap judgment, because who really knows? But I think people could get that impression from Thompson's article. Manziel apparently told his aunt to shut the hell up during a family dinner, and no one even corrected him. Supposedly, his dad kind of dreads playing golf with him because Manziel tends to fling his golf clubs around and lose his temper. For most people, it's kind of strange that Paul Manziel punched JFF's friend in the groin and then high-fived JFF. I know there are all kinds of ways for fathers to interact with their sons, but some people could see that as Paul being more of a friend to JFF than a father. Like I said, this is a snap judgment based on very little real information, but I think that has at least something to do with the way people react to JFF.

Sorry for the length of this post.


I agree with you, that article definitely threw me off and I ended up coming to a similar conclusion, that he just comes from a crazy family who probably could have disciplined him more. I think his dad may be a bit crazy even. That being said, I thought I heard Thompson apologized to the Manziel family for how they were unfairly portrayed after the piece was published, I could be wrong.

But if the article has much merit at all, how can people hate a kid for acting like pretty much any kid would act if they grew up in a similar fashion? There are plenty of "under priveleged" athletes who act like completely self-righteous, spoiled divas. I get the feeling the University and coaches have taken a bit of a "parental" role over the past year to help give Johnny better guidance. But to act like he's got this huge problem is just silly. He comes off as cocky and seems to have a shoot-from-the-hip mentality, but by all accounts from people who have met him, his teamates, celebs, and kids he has formed relationships with...he is a cool, nice, genuine dude. Maybe he just cant stand his family? Maybe his dad is an a-hole.



This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 11:33 am
Posted by Rebel89
Grenada, MS
Member since Aug 2013
69 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:34 am to
Archie's dad kills himself - Goes back to school anyway.

Manziel gets a parking ticket on campus - "Bullsh** like tonight is a reason why I can't wait to leave college station"

Spoiled shite
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 11:36 am
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:37 am to
Exactly
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Manziel gets a parking ticket on campus - "Bullsh** like tonight is a reason why I can't wait to leave college station"


shite, I've said worse than that about College Station thanks to stunts the CSPD pulls and my family is FROM there

Post less. You suck
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
508 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Archie's dad kills himself - Goes back to school anyway.


Why wouldn't anyone go back to school? Wouldn't that make them more comfortable? To be surrounded by supportive friends, teamates, and coaches?

Did Archie befriend 5 yr olds battling cancer and spend hours at a time visiting for dinner and just hanging out to play with toys?
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 11:43 am
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