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Question about some conference titles in football.

Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:02 pm
1934 - Tulane had a better record than Alabama in SEC play, but UA gets credit for an SEC title.
1951 - Georgia Tech had a better record than Tennessee in SEC play, but UT gets credit for an SEC title.
1966 - Alabama had a better record than Georgia in SEC play, but UG gets credit for an SEC title.
1976 - Georgia had a better record than Kentucky in SEC play, but UK gets credit for an SEC title.
1981 - Alabama had a better record than Georgia in SEC play, but UG gets credit for an SEC title.
1988 - LSU beat Auburn head-to-head (both were tied in SEC play), but AU gets credit for an SEC title.

1957 - Auburn was on a bowl ban and still gets credit for an SEC title. See 1984 Florida.

Just wondering.
Posted by Rig
BHM
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:06 pm to
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1957 - Auburn was on a bowl ban and still gets credit for an SEC title.
Bowl ban =/= SEC championship ban.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:07 pm to
LSU was co-champs in 1988 we were recognized
Posted by WDE85
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:07 pm to
1972-Auburn 10-1, Alabama 10-2, Auburn wins head to head, yet Alabama gets SEC title. It's very confusing.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:10 pm to
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Bowl ban =/= SEC championship ban.

We didn't have an SEC title ban in 84 either. The vote to vacate it was held later on in 85. We still have the trophy though.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:10 pm to
1972----7-1>6-1
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:11 pm to
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1972-Auburn 10-1, Alabama 10-2, Auburn wins head to head, yet Alabama gets SEC title. It's very confusing.

Alabama had a better conference record.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:11 pm to
LSU should be the SEC Champs in 1984 since it was vacated
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:12 pm to
This is all crazy. Why is all of this?

I know that they used to award multple SEC titles if you tied and head-to-head did not matter. See LSU and Auburn in 1988, for example. We don't do that now, obviously.

But, why would one school get it over another if the other school has the better record and/or won head-to-head?
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:14 pm to
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1981 - Alabama had a better record than Georgia in SEC play, but UG gets credit for an SEC title.


No? UGA lost to Clemson and Pitt (Sugar Bowl) OOC.
Bama lost to Georgia Tech and Texas (Cotton Bowl) and tied Southern Miss.

I believe UGA won the conference by having an identical conference record but only 1 loss compared to Bama's 1 loss and 1 tie.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:18 pm to
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But, why would one school get it over another if the other school has the better record and/or won head-to-head?
to compensate for weaker teams being on the schedule...yeah, I know Bama played Vandy damn near every year, but they were next closest to Tuscaloosa after MsState and AU. A lot of these trips were done on bus and train, as athletic budgets were not as they are today, mind you.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:56 pm to
Too lazy to go through and check, but are you going by overall or conference records? Only conference records matter for SEC titles.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:58 pm to
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No? UGA lost to Clemson and Pitt (Sugar Bowl) OOC.
Bama lost to Georgia Tech and Texas (Cotton Bowl) and tied Southern Miss.

I believe UGA won the conference by having an identical conference record but only 1 loss compared to Bama's 1 loss and 1 tie.

Alabama went 7-0 in conference play while Georgia went 6-0.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:59 pm to
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Too lazy to go through and check, but are you going by overall or conference records? Only conference records matter for SEC titles.

Conference records of course.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:20 pm to
Just making sure
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:24 pm to
1934 Tulane and Alabama both had 1.000 winning percentages
1951 Georgia Tech and Tennessee both and 1.000 winning percentages.
1966 Georgia and Alabama had identical 6-0 conference records.
1976 Kentucky and Georgia had identical 5-1 conference records.
Posted by boxedlunch
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:32 pm to
In 1981, Georgia and Alabama had identical 6-0 records.

This is not tough.
Posted by boxedlunch
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:35 pm to
Conference Standings:

1966


1976

1981
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:35 pm to
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1966 Georgia and Alabama had identical 6-0 conference records.

Georgia went 5-0.

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1976 Kentucky and Georgia had identical 5-1 conference records.

Kentucky went 4-2.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:37 pm to
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In 1981, Georgia and Alabama had identical 6-0 records.

This is not tough.

Alabama was 7-0.
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