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re: PSA: There’s some devastation in the Carolina’s

Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:23 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:23 am to
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No, they’re not. Watch the fist hand videos on X, not the news.


Kentucky National Guard was deployed earlier to this week to the area. I know they're not the only one by a long shot.

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The Kentucky Air National Guard deployed 11 Airmen to North Carolina this morning to assist local authorities with the humane recovery of flood casualties in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

The Airmen, all from the 123rd Airlift Wing’s Fatality Search and Recovery Team here, will work with coroners and health officials in the western part of the state, said 1st Lt. Zachary Endicott, the team’s officer in charge.

“We’re deploying to Hickory, North Carolina, to assist local authorities in recovering flood casualties,” Endicott said. “We’re bringing all-terrain vehicles, refrigeration trailers for transport and storage, as well as generators, environmental control units and tents so we can sustain the mission as long as needed.”


123rd Airwing Lift News
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:32 am to
Also for OP, World Central Kitchen is providing services in WNC (

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Five full WCK tanker trucks of drinking water are on the way to families in Asheville, North Carolina, providing much needed relief after Hurricane Helene’s catastrophic impact on the Appalachian community.

The 6,200-gallon tankers of water have just left World Central Kitchen’s operational hub in Asheville—Bear's Smokehouse BBQ, owned and operated by Chef Jamie McDonald, a longtime chef partner of WCK who has cooked with us around the world following crises including in Poland, Morocco, and Türkiye.

The trucks are capable of making multiple trips to Asheville in a 24-hour period, providing up to 100,000 gallons a day. That’s more than one gallon of water per-day for each person living in the area. This water is a lifeline to Asheville and surrounding communities, which have been facing an acute water shortage for days, due to infrastructure damage.

WCK is currently operating in four states: Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee. Fueled as always by our Chef Corps members, restaurant and food truck partners, and volunteers, WCK is working shoulder-to-shoulder with local communities to blanket the devastated region with much needed food and water aid.



World Central Kitchen News

World Central Kitchen is a great organization and worth a donation IMO. Chef Andres is top notch when it comes to humanitarian efforts.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:44 am to
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The fact we continue to send Billions to Ukraine, but can only give $750 checks to aid our own is ridiculous. And I understand that the $750 is capped so that isnt a Biden/Harris issue, but it is an issue that our politicians should address. We are more willing to dole out $ for non citizens than we are for our own citizens. Give it 2 weeks and people will quit talking about this just like they did Hawaii


If there is concern that FEMA doesn't have enough funds at the moment to manage the disaster, then Speaker Johnson (R-La.) could call a special session to increase the funding. He has chosen not to do so through this point.

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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week.


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Johnson neither ruled out nor promised authorizing supplemental relief funds for the Helene response when Congress returns in the lame-duck session.


The Hill - FEMA Funding article from 10/1/24
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:55 am to
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No, they’re not. Watch the fist hand videos on X, not the news.


Also, Chef Andres and his crew ran into a FEMA Search and Rescue group from New York while they were out delivering food and water supplies just outside of Chimney Rock (they were at Bat Cave).

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Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:55 am to
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Unfortunately, I don't think it was a joke.
One of my USArmy customers specializes in disasters and is on site in North Carolina this week. In addition, I'm told the Guard has been deployed as well
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:00 am to
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but it is an issue that our politicians should address. We are more willing to dole out $ for non citizens than we are for our own citizens. Give it 2 weeks and people will quit talking about this just like they did Hawaii


Yes I agree. Unfortunately our own government sold out “the people” years ago for the favoritism of corporations. When the SCOTUS allowed a corporate donation to equal a citizen’s vote, you knew we were screwed. To the government, we are nothing more than consumers or data points, to be manipulated and skewed however those who control the numbers see fit.
Posted by Soonerd78
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:02 am to
It’s all propaganda the world is ending !
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:07 am to
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No, they’re not. Watch the fist hand videos on X, not the news.
The Alabama National Guard deployed to crisis areas 3 days ago.

Alabama Power and over a dozen Alabama electric co-op's deployed line crews a week ago.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:14 am to
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You’d be wise not to turn this into a political thread.


I didn't. Someone else said the response was poor.

Another poster asked for examples. I provided them. I've said nothing bashing a political party, an administration, or even a particular politician.

It's not political to support the assertion that the agencies as a whole have been caught rather flat-footed. There's enough blame to go around to everyone.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:19 am to
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It's not political to support the assertion that the agencies as a whole have been caught rather flat-footed. There's enough blame to go around to everyone.


I'm genuinely curious though what exactly folks think they should've done to this point?

Despite the assertion from another poster, there IS FEMA folks on the ground doing search and rescue and other services. National Guard has been deployed from several states at this point and are also on the ground. The White House approved Cooper's request for active-duty military personnel and equipment to be moved in (just a reminder that Governors have to be the ones to request, the Feds can't just send folks in without that request as part of states-rights). They are currently working on rebuilding the railroad (there were lines of dump trucks with slate on I-26) to bring in bigger equipment that you can't bring in via helicopter.

I feel like people who haven't been in the region can't grasp the remoteness of some of these areas even with proper infrastructure in place. I know how difficult it has been for Eastern Kentucky to rebuild after flooding from July 2022 that was on a small scale but had similar affects. This isn't a flatter, less rugged area that you can access easily.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by BuckI
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:30 am to
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I'm genuinely curious though what exactly folks think they should've done to this point?


While I'm physically closer to WNC, I have far more family and contacts in S GA, so I'll speak to that specifically.

In short, there is a significant need for security all across Lowndes County, GA. There are not enough VPD or GBI to help the in-town neighborhoods regulate traffic situations and block-by-block security while sawyers and contractors work to re-electrify the area. There is a level of disappointment from South Georgia that a lack of National Guard mobilization that could have been authorized to secure fueling stations, hospitals, residential clean up efforts and even intersections while the police were more focused on search and rescue efforts.

As a close confidante mentioned to me, the overall society was breaking down, and the general feeling was that the townspeople were left to fend for themselves. VPD was utterly overwhelmed from sheer volume of work, and just needed manpower to help with the more basic things. Thankfully, she has power now, as of late last night (again, she has been largely fortunate in comparison to so many neighborhoods), but this person is extremely level-headed, and I trust her ears and eyes on this.
Posted by XbengalTiger
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:32 am to
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At the request of FEMA, the Secretary of Defense has authorized the movement of up to 1,000 active-duty Soldiers to support the delivery of food, water, and other critical aid "over the last mile to the point of need" to communities impacted by Hurricane Helene.


You think this is a good thing? This is FEMA in CYA mode, passing the buck to distract from their incompetence. You think using active military to give out food and water is the best use of military manpower? All the while, they are still pulling bodies form the debris. This is a shite-show.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35686 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:45 am to
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I'm genuinely curious though what exactly folks think they should've done to this point?

Despite the assertion from another poster, there IS FEMA folks on the ground doing search and rescue and other services. National Guard has been deployed from several states at this point and are also on the ground. The White House approved Cooper's request for active-duty military personnel and equipment to be moved in (just a reminder that Governors have to be the ones to request, the Feds can't just send folks in without that request as part of states-rights). They are currently working on rebuilding the railroad (there were lines of dump trucks with slate on I-26) to bring in bigger equipment that you can't bring in via helicopter.

I feel like people who haven't been in the region can't grasp the remoteness of some of these areas even with proper infrastructure in place. I know how difficult it has been for Eastern Kentucky to rebuild after flooding from July 2022 that was on a small scale but had similar affects. This isn't a flatter, less rugged area that you can access easily.


Pretty sure the only thing the people you are talking about are doing is preventing people from getting their stuff and helping others.

Similiar to what happened in Maui.

I honestly haven't paid the most attention to all this, but I have seen videos of people being turned away and threatened to be arrested for trying to return home.

Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:47 am to
My coworker In Fairview just got cell phone service via mobile towers.

He said that Saturday his neighbor went to get water out f the creek to flush her commode and she saw two dead bodies on the side of the creek.

My other coworker is in Asheville but her family is from Craigtown/Fairview and she has had 10 family members die in the storm.

Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
5331 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:59 am to
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This isn’t a political issue. But some have to make it one.


Totally agree

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Of course it is. The robbing of FEMA to pay for illegal aliens is definitely a political issue.


Yes because when FEMA was underfunded by W, he was just using that money to give corporations more tax breaks. It’s not limited to one party.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:31 pm to
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It’s not limited to one party.


Yes it is, it's called the uniparty. Your choice is an illusion.

Neocons like GWB and Cheney are leftists. The only thing that changes is the rhetoric, not the policies.

Which is why you see people like Cheney endorsing Kamala.

20 years ago I was called Far left because I opposed the foreign wars, sending money to foreign countries for war, the police state, all the corporate selling out, etc.

None of my positions have changed, but now I'm called far right because I'm against all the wars, sending money to foreign countries to wage war, the police state, all the corporate selling out etc.

They all have the same owners. Both "sides" hate Trump because he isn't one of them.

Trump is the only president we've had that was a neocon since Nixon.

Bushes = neocons
Clintons = neocons
Obama = neocon
Biden = neocon
Kamala = neocon.

JD Vance I'm not sold 100% on because in 2016 he endorsed Romney, another neocon.

Start looking at their policies instead of what they say. If the neocons had gotten their way this election, that stupid count Nikki Haley would have won.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Unfortunately our own government sold out “the people” years ago for the favoritism of corporations.


And the ironic thing is most of the posters here support it loudly and proudly. We have a lot of leopards eating my face types here.

Just hope everything gets back to as close to normal as soon as it can. Can't imagine dealing with what those people are now.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35686 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:42 pm to
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And the ironic thing is most of the posters here support it loudly and proudly. We have a lot of leopards eating my face types here.

Just hope everything gets back to as close to normal as soon as it can. Can't imagine dealing with what those people are now.





This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:35 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 2:43 pm
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