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re: Pruitt doesn’t have to speak w/NCAA

Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42270 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:24 am to
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lololol oh yes I'm sure there are so many NFL teams pining for Pruitt after his stellar performance at UT

He’s a great defensive coach, and I doubt he can get any on-field jobs in college right now with his NCAA troubles, so I could see it. His likely options are the NFL (if anyone is interested) and analyst roles in college.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:30 am to
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Pruitt doesn’t have to speak w/NCAA


He also doesn't have to ever work in college football again - which is exactly what will happen if he doesn't talk to them.
Posted by volslut98
Tennessee
Member since Nov 2017
74 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:32 am to
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He’s a great defensive coach


Tenn Record under Pruitt
'18 - 5-7 (2-6)
'19 - 8-5 (5-3)
'20 - 3-7 (3-7)

ummm.....


Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:33 am to
Irons Puppet made a solid point. If Pruitt wants to coach college ball again, the NCAA will ask him about the system/process being used by schools. This may lead back to every school he touched during his career. The real question is whether he wants to coach in college again. If he doesn’t, he can tell the NCAA to F off and go back to Hoover High or some other HS program.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42270 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:35 am to
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Tenn Record under Pruitt
'18 - 5-7 (2-6)
'19 - 8-5 (5-3)
'20 - 3-7 (3-7)

ummm.....

Does his record as a head coach alone paint the full picture of how good he is as a defensive football coach? Are we to ignore the great defenses he coached at Alabama and FSU, the great DBs he coach as DB coach at Alabama?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:37 am to
This is strange. UT fans are bashing JP as a coach, yet acting like the program is clean when it swaps to a new coach and kids staying. Hard to follow
Posted by volslut98
Tennessee
Member since Nov 2017
74 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:40 am to
I see your point and maybe you're right, but I think that his record as HC is also indicative of his capabilities as a coach in any capacity. You have to keep in mind that for all of his success at Alabama and FSU, he was under the control of great HCs and had top-quality asst coaches. When given the reigns to run the show, he flopped. That speaks volumes about coaching abilities IMO.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:41 am
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:43 am to
As clean as any other school, sure.
Posted by volslut98
Tennessee
Member since Nov 2017
74 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:43 am to
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This is strange. UT fans are bashing JP as a coach, yet acting like the program is clean when it swaps to a new coach and kids staying


I don't think anyone is acting like the program is suddenly "clean" just because JP is gone. No one really even understands everything that was going on yet. We're bashing JP as a coach because he half-assed every game and had poor control over the players and his staff, which indicates that they didn't respect him and likely for good reason.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15926 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:49 am to
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This is strange. UT fans are bashing JP as a coach, yet acting like the program is clean when it swaps to a new coach and kids staying. Hard to follow


Pretend we can’t read your mind and try this again please.

Are Vols fans bashing Pruitt for cheating? No. Most of us actually read the stories and listened to the press conference. No one is accusing Pruitt directly of cheating. The termination letter clearly states he was fired for the actions of his subordinates and putting illegibility of student athletes at risk.

As far as the program being clean? Everybody cheats. The goal is to minimize exposure to harm, ie do it within reason. Players likely will take a slap on the wrist and either chase money by transferring or learn moderation.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:50 am to
I don't disagree JP is an idiot. Just pointing out how quickly UT fans put blinders on when talk of a new coach and recruits. Assuming JP was cheating, UT is going to be put on probation and cripple the program. You will be lucky to keep Steele.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:55 am to
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The only reason UT is trying to stiff him is purely financial.




Because he got them in big trouble?
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 11:02 am
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3224 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:55 am to
I'm not saying Pruitt didn't do it, but we are talking about a situation involving Phil Fulmer here.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:55 am to
Look at what happened to Ole Miss in a much worse situation. A few scholarships lost over 4 years and a 2 year bowl ban and probation. They also weren’t nearly as proactive as UT.

That’s the worst case and it will be lighter. Good luck crippling a program that wasn’t going to a bowl next season anyway.

Also - Covid wasn’t the reason we didn’t play in the Liberty bowl this year - it was due to the investigation.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17288 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:58 am to
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Tennessee
quote:

putting illegibility of student athletes at risk
checks out
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:48 pm to
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You act like this is the first time a bad program has been investigated for cheating


Nope, but you do suck at reading.

The question you continue to refuse to answer is about the motivations of the program that turned the bad program in.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:49 pm to
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He only believes it because he read it somewhere. Dude doesn’t have the ability to form original thoughts or opinions.


It’s hilarious how well this comment describes you and Keller on this situation.

“Uga did it! I read it somewhere.”
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:52 pm to
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Any team that starts landing top recruits


Good point, so when considering the poor state of vol recruiting in the fall, it’s safe to conclude uga wouldn’t be the program doing that.
Posted by Bama2020
Member since Sep 2020
541 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:28 pm to
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When the NCAA investigates Tennessee, Pruitt absolutely has to speak to the NCAA if he ever wants to coach at that level again.

If he doesn't care about coaching again, then yes, he doesn't have to speak to them. They don't have subpoena power, but they do have eligibility power.



They can penalize him w/a show-cause penalty of various lengths but cannot ban him from coaching at a NCAA school. Chip Kelly got 18-mo and now coaches UCLA and recently Dan Mullen got a 12-month show-cause penalty and he's still working at UF. That said, both those guys cooperated with the NCAA. The wiki of show-cause penalties below seem to indicate the length of show-cause penalties has been steadily dropping. However, the one thing that seems to extend the show-cause penalty length is lying to NCAA investigators.

LINK
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Nope. The NCAA was tipped off by another school. UT did not invite the NCAA despite what you hear or have been told.




Look, I know you are an okay guy, and you keep claiming this, but everything from a credible source I have read said that it was started internally.

Do you have a link from a credible source that is not speculating that backs up what you are saying?
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